Using Soft Swim. Cloudy water after adding flocculant.

[JvilleKC]

Thank you for your advice. Do you have to wait until the water is clear before swimming in the pool again? I believe the conversion takes a week from what I've read. It is HOT here in the midwest!!

[Watermom]

I would wait to swim but it may not take a week. The more often you test and the more often you add bleach, the quicker the conversion will go. There is no such thing as testing and dosing with bleach too often. I can remember one person here on the forum a few years ago who completed his conversion in about 3 days because he tested and dosed every couple of hours. He was determined to get it done fast and he did!

Order that good kit ASAP. In the meantime, you can force the kit you buy in the meantime (that I listed above) to read higher by using a dilution method. Diluting is not super accurate but will be good enough in the meantime until the good kit arrives. Get some distilled water while you are at Walmart.

Testing Without a Good Kit

Did you see any of the pictures taken during a conversion process? Are you prepared for your pool to turn green? It can be a little scary to see it happen, but it will be worth it!

[aylad]

Do you have to wait until the water is clear before swimming in the pool again? I believe the conversion takes a week from what I've read.

I wouldn't want to swim during the conversion for two reasons: 1) when the water is cloudy, it is very easy for a swimmer, who is underwater and in trouble where no one can see, to drown; and 2) during the conversion, there's lots of nasty combined chloramines being formed as a result of the chlorine breaking down the SoftSwim, and I don't think they'll be kind to swimmers, eyes, skin, or swimsuits. It would be better to either postpone the conversion until you're ready to shut down the pool for up to a week, or just bite the bullet and do it, and swim afterwards. Like Watermom said, the more diligent you are about keeping the chlorine levels up in the pool, the faster the conversion will go.

Janet

[PoolDoc]

Do you have to wait until the water is clear before swimming in the pool again? I believe the conversion takes a week from what I've read.

It *may* take a week. If you've used Baquacil for a long time, since you last drained (ie, multiple years), it may take longer. If you have used Baqucil CDX, it *will* take longer, possibly much longer.

The only fast and RELIABLE way to convert quickly, is to drain and refill. But, that may not be an option, if you don't have an above ground pool, or a concrete in ground pool. At least a partial drain and refill is also an important element of any QUICK water mold cure.

However, your Softswim C loss *may* not be a problem with your pool. Apparently, peroxide can be rapidly photolysed by sunlight, just like chlorine can be. And, apparently, DMH (dimethyl hydantoin) can stabilize peroxide somewhat, in a manner analogous to chlorine stabilizer. But (again, apparently) DMH is *much* less benign in pool care than stabilizer. Baquacil CDX introduces DMH to pools (apparently!) to help prevent solar peroxide loss.

There are not any *great* middle-of-the-season solutions to a messed up PHMB (Baquacil, Softswim, etc.) pool.

Please do this:

1. Complete the pool chart, so we know what sort of pool we're discussiong:

Pool Chart Entry Form
Pool Chart Results

2. List all the chemicals you've used in the last 6 weeks, and also whether you have EVER used Baquacil CDX

3. Tell us what the water looks, smells and feels like.

4. Tell us whether there is any sort of slime on surfaces or snot-like globs anywhere in your pool.

[Watermom]

That Ben, he does have a way with words, doesn't he? (In reference to his last sentence.)

[chem geek]

Chlorine oxidizes hydrogen peroxide to oxygen gas (in fact, hydrogen peroxide can be used as a chlorine reducer for that reason) so the advice you got of adding some chlorine to get rid of the white water mold (if that's what you have) wasn't very good. After all the hydrogen peroxide is removed by chlorine, additional chlorine breaks down Baquacil/biguanide/PHMB in a very colorful manner. The problem is that chlorine does not break down DMH very quickly at all (DMH is used in the Baquacil CDX system). If you have used that system, then you either need to do a drain/refill (but as Ben says, that isn't always possible depending on the type of pool you have) or you have to use a more expensive (though faster and less colorful) approach which uses high levels of hydrogen peroxide at high pH by using sodium percarbonate as described in this link. Also, regardless of which approach you use, you'll want to start off with the lowest amount of Baquacil/biguanide/PHMB possible so stop adding it as it will degrade on its own in sunlight over time.

[PoolDoc]

Tell us whether there is any sort of slime on surfaces or snot-like globs anywhere in your pool.

That Ben, he does have a way with words, doesn't he?

Well, how would YOU describe it, briefly and accurately, without using terms only Chem_Geek would know?

[Watermom]

I think you were very clear, Ben. I doubt there is anybody who doesn't have a real clear picture of your description. Good job! (Sometimes you are so funny!)