On TFP and PoolForum

[CarlD]

Janet,
I understand where you are coming from but tell me... what about a newbie who comes here and has questions but cannot register and get them answered? Unless they are lucky enough to come across TFP or even Poolcenter's forum in a search engine they are basically at a dead end. (I certainly hope they don't end up on Poolspaforum!) Perhaps it might be beneficial to this segment of the pool owning market that are looking to learn more and get advice to be able to direct them to places where they can become actively involved.
I know there are no easy answers to this but isn't one of the reasons we got together as a community in the firstplace was to help other pool owners and exchange knowledge? I know that there is a wealth of information to be found on here just by searching and browsing the posts but it still does not compare to the handholding and encouragement someone gets when they post their progess with such things as clearing a green pool or converting from biguanide.

Evan:

This is why the moderators have, as a team, decided to continue to allow references to TFP--so that there is a place people can register, post questions and get answers. If our forum ever opens up again to allow new registrations, it will be up to Ben to decide, at that time, if such a referral is OK.

Janet fully understands this, and she speaks for the 4 of us. But if referral to TFP turns to criticism of PF--knocking us down to build TFP up, or further recriminations against Ben for the same purpose, we wll step in using our roles as moderators to protect PF.

Carl.

[waterbear]

Evan:

But if referral to TFP turns to criticism of PF--knocking us down to build TFP up, or further recriminations against Ben for the same purpose, we wll step in using our roles as moderators to protect PF.

Carl.

I must have missed something either over here or at TFP (and I am one of the mods there). I have seen quite a few people upset over here over the testkit problem but not over at TFP. If there was something specific then I have missed it.
If you are speaking about the remarks that some have made about PF 'dying' then that is quite undertandable but the fact is PF is a closed forum these days and for non members it is essentially dead. I have always supprted Ben and this forum (even though I am one of the people whose testkit problem was never fully rectified), as you probably realize but I really don't understand some of the bad feelings that seem to have been generated since TFP came on the scene.

Then again, if I am not mistaken weren't you the one who closed the TFP thread initally? I forget the reason why. If I am wrong about that I apologize, it's been a while and my memory is not what it used to be!

[SeanB.]

Evan, I think I get what they are talking about. I have definitely been sympathetic to those with kit delivery issues. While it was never my intention to pile on, I can see where people might have seen my comments as antagonistic to Ben and by extension, PF.

All I can say, is that was not my intention. The fact is that PF still draws a fair amount of traffic and guests via the search engines. While TFP is continuing to grow in the searches as well, the additional traffic and members is always welcome. My point is, that damaging PF or harming my relationships here, serves no purpose. I don't have any animosity toward Ben, as I did not order a kit, but I just tend to identify on consumer issues. I doubt my comments or actions would have changed the outcome here, but will not overtly contribute to any more discussions about prior actions.

I think we will all be better off by just moving forward and helping pool users.


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[CarlD]

I think we will all be better off by just moving forward and helping pool users.

Yes, you have definitely been a valuable contributing member. There's no question about that.

However, I think SeanB's quote should be the final word on the subject.

[waterbear]

Yes, you have definitely been a valuable contributing member. There's no question about that.

However, I think SeanB's quote should be the final word on the subject.

Ok, done!

[CarlD]

I must have missed something either over here or at TFP (and I am one of the mods there). I have seen quite a few people upset over here over the testkit problem but not over at TFP. If there was something specific then I have missed it.
If you are speaking about the remarks that some have made about PF 'dying' then that is quite undertandable but the fact is PF is a closed forum these days and for non members it is essentially dead. I have always supprted Ben and this forum (even though I am one of the people whose testkit problem was never fully rectified), as you probably realize but I really don't understand some of the bad feelings that seem to have been generated since TFP came on the scene.

Then again, if I am not mistaken weren't you the one who closed the TFP thread initally? I forget the reason why. If I am wrong about that I apologize, it's been a while and my memory is not what it used to be!

Yes, and I re-opened it too. Please remember that, too. As a moderator I have the duty to shut down threads I consider damaging and consult with the other mods, and, either keeping them shut, or re-opening them. Think of it as "The officials are reviewing the play". How you moderate on TFP is between you and SeanB and the members (of which I am one, albeit fairly inactive). But it's not relevant to our responsibilities here at PF. Nor am I talking about anything posted on TFP. We don't monitor what it posted at TFP, but we do monitor what's posted here.

I think SeanB's words immediately above express exactly what I feel the relationship should be between the two boards. I think all of the mods here at PF would agree with that. We would like to keep it that way and hope that others will keep that in mind.

[waterbear]

Yes, and I re-opened it too. Please remember that, too.
Yes, I am quite aware of that fact.

I think SeanB's words immediately above express exactly what I feel the relationship should be between the two boards. I think all of the mods here at PF would agree with that. We would like to keep it that way and hope that others will keep that in mind.

Well, as a member of this board (forget the fact that I am a mod at TFP...I've been a member here for a longer period of time, and I believe a contributing one at that) I am just a bit confused by the bad feelings that seem to abound. Like I stated in the prevoius post I can undersand how people that had test kit problems would be upset and I understand how taxing that must have been on the Mods here to deal with but I don't understand where the other "criticism" that you refer to is supposed to be coming from because I, for one, have not really seen any. Like I said I must have missed something.