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    Posting at 3:53am? Richard, you're too much into this for the winter!

    Remember one thing about the salt: The "inert ingredient" in Liquid Chlorine/Bleach is, of course, brine/saline/saltwater. That's probably the cause of your salt rising.

    Bleach is made from saltwater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlD View Post
    Posting at 3:53am? Richard, you're too much into this for the winter!

    Remember one thing about the salt: The "inert ingredient" in Liquid Chlorine/Bleach is, of course, brine/saline/saltwater. That's probably the cause of your salt rising.

    Bleach is made from saltwater.
    It was 12:53 AM on the west coast where I am, but you're right, that's still late.

    I figured with the 0.5 ppm FC average addition per day and that 1 ppm FC adds 1.6 ppm of salt (0.8 ppm from chlorine that becomes salt when it gets used up plus 0.8 ppm of salt directly) that over 7 months of summer use that is 0.5*1.6*7*30=168 ppm. I guess two seasons of that plus the small amount over winter plus what was leftover and diluted from previous seasons plus the 280 ppm from the Calcium Chloride adds up to at least 616 ppm. If I had around 200 ppm leftover from previous seasons diluted in half each season that gets me to over 800 ppm. When I did the math last night, it didn't work out, but then again that's what I get for trying to "think" at 12:53 AM!

    So cool. Now I've got one of those near-1000 ppm salt pools. I wonder if my wife will notice anything different.

    Richard

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    Wait a minute, just a doggone minute!

    Did you say SEVEN months of summer use a year???

    With a lot of luck we can maybe get 4 1/2 months of use a year: Most of May, all of June through August, and maybe half of September, if and only if it's not raining all month. And that's WITH solar panels! Without, it would be part of June, and July and August.

    You really know how to hurt a guy from New Jersey, don't you!
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    Carl,

    If it makes you feel any better, from mid-April to mid-May and from mid-October to mid-November we heat with lots of gas assist and it's EXPENSIVE, a few hundred dollars for each month. So we really only have FIVE months of true solar-only heating time and we still have a few days here and there where we use gas assistance since we keep the pool at 88F if we can (or at least 86F). I think we only use NO gas for a month in July. All other (swim-season) months have at least one day that needs gas due to the sometimes cloudy day or long foggy morning. If I really wanted to make you jealous, I'd be living in southern CA or AZ or southern FL.

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    88 degrees sounds warm. I haven't even been in mine since construction but hopefully anyday we will get out of this deep freeze. I have a 200K btu heater that I hope wont be too expensive to heat 9K gallons so we can use ours mid March thru September.

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    Carl.
    Hate to make you feel even worse but how about 9-10 months a year (with the heatpump going for about 4-5 of them). Oh, the hottub gets used in the other 2-3 months! This is why I no longer live in New Jersey I hope to add solar in the next few years once my piggy bank recovers from the pool builder from h*ll that I still am fixing so don't begrudge me this one!
    Retired pool store and commercial pool maintenance guy.

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    Oh,
    I'm just sitting here watching this ice storm shut down the state...How you can have an ice storm when it's 17 deg F is a mystery to me---that's 10 to 15 degrees too cold. But Hey! This is New Jersey! Our state flower is Poison Ivy. Our state bird is the greenhead mosquito.

    But we are getting this nasty dangerous wet sleet. Even snow is easier.

    We live in New Jersey because it's better to live in the Jughandle State than the Ripoff State (NY--where I was born and grew up). We pay high taxes, but lower than NY. NJ is actually an economic powerhouse and housing prices are STILL going up. Our public schools are among the best. All the drug companies are here in a big way, there are the oil refineries over on the coast, and it's all within easy reach of NYC and Philly, not to mention the vacation areas here, in PA, NY, Ct, and Mass.

    While it's very densely populated, especially the eastern side of the state, people don't think to move here...that's OK with us!

    We used to live on 4 acres further west. It was beautiful, on what passes for a mountain here, with all kinds of wildlife--the black bears were quite the nuisance. Even here in the 'burbs the deer are like pigeons and the wild turkeys show up regularly.

    If you move to NJ, be sure to live on a hill, not a flood plain, and REALLY learn defensive driving! The NJ drivers are bad but the New York and Pa drivers are really crazy!
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