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    Default Re: What is ProTeam SupremePLUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by waterbear View Post
    When you figure in shipping the 20 mule team and acid work out the cheapest but the boric acid is more convenient. However, the supreme plus is a mixture of borax (pentahydrate) and boric acid so it is atually pH neutral and not slightly net acidic like the straight boric acid is.

    However, the bottom line is that this is not the next 'pool-store scam' (as Carl said in the first post) because, unlike phosphate removers, borate actually does something beneficial to a pool and it is not just an unnecessary waste of money that only lightens your wallet! It is more like baking soda. You can buy expensive baking soda at the pool store or pay less for it at the grocery store.
    Well, that's my point. Baking soda and washing soda are FAR more expensive at the pool store and they WILL try to tell you it's "better". I've had guys at pool stores tell me bleach is a problem because it adds TDS, when they are selling LC, even at 6%.

    OK, so it's better than Nature2 and other silver/copper erosion systems. It's still a way to get unsuspecting pool owners to pay FAR more for a common chemical than they have to, and I have a problem with that.

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    Maybe this should go to the China Shop?
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    Default Re: What is ProTeam SupremePLUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlD View Post
    Well, that's my point. Baking soda and washing soda are FAR more expensive at the pool store and they WILL try to tell you it's "better". I've had guys at pool stores tell me bleach is a problem because it adds TDS, when they are selling LC, even at 6%.
    Well, yeah. That's what pool stores tend to do. Why single out one product that they do it to (Supreme). It's no different than how they market alkalinity increaser, pH increaser, and liquid shock (although their price on liquid shock can often be better than buying bleach).

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlD View Post
    OK, so it's better than Nature2 and other silver/copper erosion systems. It's still a way to get unsuspecting pool owners to pay FAR more for a common chemical than they have to, and I have a problem with that.
    No quite following you here. What does borate have to do with Nature2 or other copper/silver systems at all? Proteam Supreme and other borate products do not claim to be alternative sanitizers that allow reduced chlorine levels. Your problem is with pool stores and how they market common chemicals, not with borate.
    I agree that this should be moved to the china shop but the title should be changed to how pools stores charge a lot of money for common household chemicals since that is the real issue you seem to be complaining about.
    It's really old news.
    Retired pool store and commercial pool maintenance guy.

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