Fanta Sea Pool

[J_Palmer_Cass]

Hi Carl.

Full FantaSea build about 1984. 16' X 32' X 46" deep flat bottom. Solar panel decking around perimeter of the pool. FantaSea 16' X 12' add on deck. First rebuild about 1998. Second rebuild (major) in 2013.

When I have some more time, we can discuss some details on my rebuilds. You may find my experience useful since your first rebuild is coming up soon.

This site seems a bit hard to use in that I can not edit my postings nor can I apply attachments. Kind of hard to make detailed postings with no errors. I also like to have my pictures saved as attachments rather than use an external web site. I clear out my external photo hosting pictures every few years, so when I do that my pictures will no longer be shown on this site.

[Watermom]

You should be able to edit your post. There is a button in the lower right corner.

[J_Palmer_Cass]

You should be able to edit your post. There is a button in the lower right corner.

I can not edit my posting at this point in time. I am not sure if that edit permission is granted to me.

Way down the bottom this is what I see under permissions:

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[PoolDoc]

@Watermom: moderated (ie, anonymous) users can't edit their posts.

Spammers have been able to enter as moderated users, get a post approved, and then edit that post to contain their spam. The forum does not have any sort of alert on edits, so I can't detect that until a user sees it and contacts me.

@J_Palmer,etc: Regarding photos, we archive them for precisely that reason. The vBulletin attachment system has a history of 'eating' photos at each major upgrade; I've lost all photos 2x now. Over the winter, we mostly move user photos into the PoolForum Picasa account.

[J_Palmer_Cass]

FantaSea upper rail failure.

[CarlD]

That kind of rail failure is my fear. The long rail is about 900 lbs and required a bobcat to install it. That is why I want to arrest rust damage now.
Your original wood walls lasted 14 years. My "Space Age" wall have been failing for years and now, at year 12, are about to puncture the liner. It is a beaded liner, not an overlap.

If I go ahead with the vinyl plywood walls, I would only screw them in, but I will consider PT 3/4" A-C ply. What did you use between the plywood and the liner?

[J_Palmer_Cass]

That kind of rail failure is my fear. The long rail is about 900 lbs and required a bobcat to install it. That is why I want to arrest rust damage now.

To gain access to the metal rail system, you have to remove the solar panels, the outer 2" x 4" panel supports, as well as the 1" X 6" outside vertical that your rails screw into. There is no way to get at the rails if you do not do that. I have pictures if you need to see what I am talking about.

Your original wood walls lasted 14 years. My "Space Age" wall have been failing for years and now, at year 12, are about to puncture the liner. It is a beaded liner, not an overlap.

If I go ahead with the vinyl plywood walls, I would only screw them in, but I will consider PT 3/4" A-C ply. What did you use between the plywood and the liner?

I guess we are into semantics here. The factory 4' X 8" plywood panels start to fail near the 10 year mark. It was not realistic to replace them until the liner was shot. The liner was replaced after 14 years. Just as a note, they do not use marine grade plywood. Just exterior grade with a vinyl coating on both sides. I recommend that you stay clear of that product.

I bought a full new coping kit for this 2013 rebuild, and purchased the beaded liner. Leisure Living gave me a discount on the package.


Some details here. Screw in 15 year old pressure treated (PT) plywood sidewalls at pool year 30 (2013). Plywood is still in great shape after 15 years of use. Top 2" X 6" PT are all new due to warping and some rot.





Apply duct tape (or similar) over seams and all screws, spray on swimming pool adhesive, and then apply pool wall foam. The wall foam can be purchased at any pool supply store including Leisure Living.






Note: One of my postings is missing.

[CarlD]

By far the worst rust I have on the rails is on the diagonal rounds. The rest is more surface rust. I certainly want to avoid removing the outside 1x6 as that requires removing my custom fencing completely (Ben has a picture of my pool here somewhere). The 4x4's seem in good shape, and, since it is an "Add-a-Deck" they don't have the extended cantilever to support more than the 2' wide deck. Where we extended the deck a few years ago (on the East end) it is self-supporting, not relying on the FantaSea structure.

Looking at the price of A-C marine-grade PT, I have to say it's far, FAR cheaper than Leisure Living's wood walls--about 1/4 the price. Using wall foam over the ply means that you CAN use duct tape (not recommended when the liner is directly against the water wall. So I'm seriously considering taking your advice on that step. Even at $40/sheet, 14 sheets of marine ply are STILL, at $560 far less than the $$1800 + shipping quoted. That's a great idea!