My Super Pump has died; what should I get?

[bry14661]

Here's what you want:

Either a 2 speed Super Pump with a toggle switch (~$500)

Hayward SP2607X102S Super 1hp Dual Speed Pool Pump

Or a VS Super Pump with a surge protector (~$750)

Hayward SP2600VSP Super Pump VS Variable-Speed Pool Pump @ Amazon
Intermatic PS3000 Pool and Spa Surge Protective Device @ Amazon

If you have a LOT of thunderstorms & lighting in your area, you should ALSO get this:

Intermatic IG3240RC3 120/240 VAC Surge Protective Device

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The electronics on VS pumps is sensitive to lightning related voltage surges. You should NOT install ANY VS pump in Florida or other areas with lots of lightning, without installing a pool rated surge protector: replacing the electronics tends to run 80% of the cost of a new pump.

Either pump will save you money and be MUCH quieter. If you install the surge protection with the VS pump, both pumps should be reliable and long lasting. I'm not sure whether the VS pump will save more once you figure the additional cost, but it is more efficient.

Both pumps should fit directly into the space you have. If you get these unions and this pipe dope:

Spears 497 Series PVC Union with EPDM O-Ring, Schedule 40, 1.5"
Rectorseal 31631 1/4 Pint Brush Top Tru-Blu Pipe Thread Sealant

you should be able to do a drop in replacement. I'd recommend getting 3 unions, unless you are skilled at PVC fittings; it's pretty easy to get glue into the union joint and ruin it. Remember to cut out about 3/4" to make space for the additional length the union will add. Buy PVC cement AND cleaner locally, but get a US brand like Oatey, Rectorseal or Weld-On.

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Do NOT get a Pentair pump: Pentair has drastically slashed the warranty on consumer purchased and installed equipment!


Continue to chlorinate daily.

Hope this helps.

This helps A LOT!! thanks a bunch.. I guess my only remaining question at this point is do I need BOTH surge devices listed? I mean I guess I would say I have a pretty good amount of lightning in my area. I mean it is Tampa Bay after all. Is there one unit that can do what both of those do individually?

[PoolDoc]

The pool one will protect your pump.

But putting one in the house will do set up another level of protection AND help protect stuff INSIDE your house, like TV's and computers. But, it's optional. The one for the pump is the priority.

Keep in mind that surge protectors die doing their job: you need to inspect after a bad storm. If it's dead, you have to replace it: it did what it was supposed to do.

[bry14661]

So I have ordered the pool surge units but im still trying to shop the best pump size. I was way off on my gallon estimate. According to this equation...

Oval Pools - Multiply full width x full length x average depth x 6.7 = gallons
Oval Pools - 11' x 24'x 4' x 6.7 = 7075

Does this change the pump I should get? also I was looking online at the Hayward site and noticed they have 4 different VS pumps.
SuperPump®VS
EcoStar®
TriStar® VS
MaxFlo VS™

I cant seem to find comparable information on their site to see which one would suit me best now knowing my actual gallonage. Do you recommend anything different knowing the information that I have found. Thanks again!

[PoolDoc]

Don't get the Tristar or Ecostar -- both are much bigger than you need.

Either the SuperPump or the Maxflow will work, but I'd suggest the SuperPump. The Maxflo is optimized more for fountains and so forth.

By the way, if you do buy from Amazon, please use the links here. PoolForum gets a small commission when you do so, but it doesn't change your price at all. Also, if you buy from Amazon, be ready to install as soon as you get the pump. That way, it can be up and running BEFORE the 30 day Amazon return window expires. You'd still have the Hayward warranty, but it's much easier to return to Amazon. The defect rate on the Hayward products is pretty low (I can't recall ever having to return a Hayward pump, filter or heater for a warranty defect), but it does happen.

Of course, if you buy elsewhere, you can ignore all that.

Good luck!

[CarlD]

How long did your pump last?
My first Superpump 2spd (the one Ben named) lasted 10 full seasons. I replaced it with another figuring that was a good, long life, and it was my d*** fault for storing it in my unheated shed rather than my warm, dry basement. They run about $500, plus the power cord (I made a new one).

[bry14661]

How long did your pump last?
My first Superpump 2spd (the one Ben named) lasted 10 full seasons. I replaced it with another figuring that was a good, long life, and it was my d*** fault for storing it in my unheated shed rather than my warm, dry basement. They run about $500, plus the power cord (I made a new one).

I had a Hyaward super 2 and it lasted 7 years and it froze up during operation. It does go year round since this is Florida.