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    Default Re: When to admit defeat and start over?

    Thanks. That's what we thought.

    Now, is it worth replacing the Intex pump with the one in my earlier post?
    Any firsthand with that pump?

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    I'm going to ask Dave, who is one of our support team members, to take a look at your question. He is more familiar with Intex equipment than I am.

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    Default Re: When to admit defeat and start over?

    That pump (by specification) would be way too much for your pool.

    What filter were you considering? Intex makes some sand filters that would be appropriate. The Hayward VL would also be appropriate.
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    Default Re: When to admit defeat and start over?

    . . . membership updated.

    New filter cartridges will help, but a bigger pump by itself will not. If you want to improve filtration, but a pump + filter like this:
    Intex Sand Filter Pump 2900 Gallons (GPH)
    But, for $47, I'd absolutely start over . . . even if you get the new pump. It's hard to clean up algae, and harder to clean up chemical hobo soup, which it sounds like you have.

    Good luck!

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    Default Re: When to admit defeat and start over?

    Thanks all.
    After some deliberation [and laziness on my part] we've decided to try and fix this rather than starting over.

    The green is gone, but it is now milky, and we can no longer see the squares pattern on the bottom.
    We can see about a 2' dia pile of something dusty looking [dead algae?] in the center.
    We currently only have a 3-way test kit, but can get the water tested tomorrow at a pool store.
    As of right now we have:
    CL ~ 10 [using distilled water method]
    pH ~ 7.7
    BM ~ 22

    Over the last several weeks we've added:
    2½ 1# pkgs of Aquachem Shock and Shock + [we can't remember the exact combination]
    1 box of Baking Soda [which I can't recall why]
    2 boxes of Borax
    2 gal Walmart's Finest Liquid Bleach
    a few handfuls of 1" chlorine tablets in a floating duck [he wanted to help ]
    2 loads of 1" cl tabs in the top ½ of the filter. [OEM Intex pump/type a/c filter. mdl # avail on request]

    The only things added in the last 4-5 days was 1g of bleach as we still saw some algae and the cl had fallen to 0, and 1 box Borax this afternoon to get the pH up.
    The CL has been over 10 since we added the bleach, but it's coming down little by little.
    We take the cover off for several hours each day to burn off the excess CL.

    The questions on the floor:
    Are we on the right track?
    What is our next step?
    With CL@10 and pH@7.7, can we swim even though it's milky? It's way hot here [90+ every day] and the pool would be nice.
    It's just two adults.

    Thanks again!

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    Default Re: When to admit defeat and start over?

    There is one really critical testing result that is needed or we are not really going to be able to help and that is a CYA reading. Without knowing that, we can't know how high you should be keeping your chlorine.

    The test kit that we recommend is the Taylor K2006 or 2006C (better buy). But, it is not available locally. You can get it through this link, though. http://pool9.net/tk/

    But, in the meantime, go to Walmart and see if they have the HTH 6-Way drops-based kit (no test strips!) That kit does have a test for CYA.

    (As far as laziness on your part, fixing this is actually going to be WAY harder than dumping it and starting over.)

    Edit-- What is BM 22?

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    Default Re: When to admit defeat and start over?

    Ok, we're back from the pool store.
    Our numbers are as follows:

    FC = 12.05
    TC > 15.66 [Their machine limit]
    CC = 3.61
    pH = 7.8
    Hardness = 36
    Alk = 104.3
    CYA = 29
    Copper = 0.1
    Iron = 0.2
    Borate = 24

    Our Walmart is out of the 6-way kit, so a Taylor K2006 is on its way.
    BM = 22 was a typo for BR, Borate. Sorry. [M and R are so close on the keyboard... ]

    The pool store computer recommendation was to add:

    7.5oz of pH Minus
    10lb, 4oz Calcium Plus for the hardness
    7.2oz Aquabrite Super Shock to bring down the TC
    4oz Stabilizer

    Talking to the pool store guy, he was basically, "just leave it alone. Don't add anything until the CC gets down around normal [from sun burn off/swimming], and then add Stabilizer.
    He said the milkiness should go away in several days or so, and that, while not pretty, was nothing to stop swimming.

    Does all this sound about right?

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