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    Default Re: having possible mustard algae problem 3 weeks now

    I got the DE and added one cup mixed with pool water into a skimmer. There was not a visible result from any of the returns.

    The FC is at 5 according to the OTO kit.

    The k2006 kit is scheduled to arrive on Monday.

    Today the pool has a very fine film of rust colored dust around the returns (maybe 3-4 feet around). Otherwise, the pool floor is starting to accumulate the powdery looking algae. It always starts accumulating wherever there are wrinkles in the liner or at the angles where the inclines meet.

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    Default Re: having possible mustard algae problem 3 weeks now

    OK.

    We won't know for sure till you have the K2006, but your pool is acting like you have (a) a very chlorine resistant strain of algae and (b) high levels of stabilizer. Watch the guide videos, especially the one on CYA testing so you'll be able to get a good reading right away.
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    The only preference I had for the 6-way was for finding our your CYA level sooner rather than later.

    I scanned back through the thread. Without using phosphates, the only other option you have for mustard algae is higher chlorine. I'd recommend dosing till the OTO has an orange tint. As you push levels higher, the risk of liner bleaching increases. But you really don't have any other options.

    You *could* use high levels of copper, but the amounts you'd need (unless you used plain copper sulphate) will cost more than treating for phosphates, and will likely stain the heck out of your pool.

    Foamy algaecides don't work against mustard, and polyquat is not much better.

    You could use the ammonia based products, to generate monochloramine, but your pool water will become very irritating to eyes and skin. And the clean-up is a mess.

    Borates may help somewhat preventatively, but I haven't seen any evidence that they will help once the algae is established. And again, establishing an effective 60 ppm borate level would cost more than lowering phosphates.

    Just in case you run into them -- there are some anti-mustard algae products that contain sodium bromide. Do NOT try these; they turn your pool into an unstabilized bromine pool for an unknown period of time. Using them will cause your chlorine use to skyrocket and will accomplish nothing you can't already accomplish by raising chlorine levels directly.

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    Default Re: having possible mustard algae problem 3 weeks now

    ugh. I drained down the pool last fall because the test strips were showing over 100 ppm on CYA. It was expensive to refill, but I have to fix this.

    The test kit should be here Monday. I am going out of town, but my wife is going to test it. I will post the results ASAP.

    (I will not add anything else to the pool till I hear from you)

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    Default Re: having possible mustard algae problem 3 weeks now

    You probably missed this, buried under all my other verbiage:

    I'd recommend dosing till the OTO has an orange tint. As you push levels higher, the risk of liner bleaching increases. But you really don't have any other options.

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    Default Re: having possible mustard algae problem 3 weeks now

    the Taylor kit came today and my wife tested it. it showed CYA at 75ppm. I did not have her to test the chlorine with the Taylor. The test strips showed 3 ppm, however. The pictures that she forwarded me show the pool to have green algae covering the floor surfaces and a greenish tint to the water.

    please advise what to do and I will relay the instructions. we have access to bleach and to cal hypo powder locally.
    Sorry about the delay, but I left for an out of town two week business trip. that was why I was stressed trying to solve it quickly last week. I have a little additional money coincidentally if I need to replace water or purchase a lot of chlorine.
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    Default Re: having possible mustard algae problem 3 weeks now

    Wall algae with CYA=75 ppm?

    1. Put your pump on LOW speed.
    2. Set your timer to run 24/7
    3. Add 5 gallons of PLAIN 8% bleach OR 5 pounds of 68% cal hypo daily . . . ASAP
    4. Test with the OTO kit; stop adding chlorine when you read orange tinted yellow; repeat when chlorine drops back to DARK yellow.
    5. Brush the algae spots AFTER adding the chlorine.

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