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    Default Remove limestone on the sides of the fiber pool

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    Hey everyone.

    can you help me, I got a lot of limestone on the sides and bottom of my class fiber pool.

    how do I get rid of it/ and why do it come.

    I just owned the house with pool 1 season

    regards Kasper
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    Default Re: Remove limestone on the sides of the fiber pool

    You'll need to give us more details on the pool. Usually, lime/calcium buildup is due to excessive calcium in your water. Calcium is added to protect concrete and tile pools but is pretty much useless for vinyl and FG pools.
    Please let us know what size pool you have, what size and brand pump and filter, and the following test items (a pool store should test them for free):
    FC (Free Chlorine)
    CC (Combined Chloramines) and/or TC (total chlorine: TC=FC + CC so it's easy to calculate)
    pH
    T/A (Total Alkalinity)
    CH (Calcium Hardness) --these two, T/A and CH may tell us a lot.
    CYA (Cyunaric Acid aka, Stabilizer)

    Any metal tests they want to do. They'll probably do phosphate testing but unless it's super-high (> 3000) it's irrelevant.

    Good luck!
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    Default Re: Remove limestone on the sides of the fiber pool

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    it a in ground pool from 1974. 38000liters / 10.000gallons with sand filter with 125kg sand in and a 1kw pump.
    The pool havn't been used for 2 years before wee bought the house.
    on the sides there is a lot of lime stone, its all white.
    the pool is closed down for the winter now.

    kasper
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    Default Re: Remove limestone on the sides of the fiber pool

    By "fiber pool" do you mean "fiberglass pool with a gelcoat finish"?

    It's possible to remove calcium carbonate scale (CaCO3) from a fiberglass pool by lowering the pH to 6.0 - 6.4, and lowering the carbonate alkalinity to less than 80 ppm, and then holding those levels for an extended period. BUT . . . in order to do so, you need accurate testing capability and you need access to muriatic acid (~30% solution of HCl). If you were in the US or Canada, I could tell you where to go, and what to buy.

    But in Denmark? Not so much.

    Lovibond and Palintest products are available in various European countries, but the cost for the capability is 3 - 4x what it is here, and availability is spotty.

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    Default Re: Remove limestone on the sides of the fiber pool

    Hi

    Yes I mean a fiberclass pool with gelcoat.
    in Denmark muriatic 30% is normal to use. so that isn't a problem.
    the problem is to test if the water has a ph on 6,0 to 6,4.
    and alkalinity I test with strips. ( isn't that ok )


    Kasper

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    Default Re: Remove limestone on the sides of the fiber pool

    Strips are rather inaccurate. However, the pH and alkalinity results are easier to read with reasonable accuracy than the stabilizer (cyanuric acid) results.

    The problem is that the range on the pH scale isn't going to reach 6.0, and the discrimination on the alkalinity test is usually too poor to allow you to distinguish 30 ppm TA from 80 ppm TA. But getting the TA below 100 ppm is more important than keeping it above 30 ppm.

    But you must NOT allow the pH to get too low. 6.0 is a somewhat arbitrary figure, but pH = 4.0 is likely to damage your pool. Chinese made cheap pH meters are available in the USA; you may be able to find them in Denmark. Hanna Instruments is selling cheap Chinese made pH meters all over the world: http://www.hannainst.com/usa/about.cfm . You may be able to find a source you can use. You MUST purchase pH buffer solutions for calibration, as well. PH meters can NOT be trusted at ALL if they are not calibrated.

    Good luck.

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