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    Default Re: King Technology Pool Frog system AND green pool *Update*

    This morning there is sediment on the bottom and slightly less cloudy. This supports your polyquat clumping assertion. I will vac to waste and continue to run filter 24/7 today and keep on keeping on.

    I am also cleaning the filter every 12 hours.


    This season I accidentally let the RV antifreeze pump into the pool. Other posters indicate this is not a big problem (not that it is a help either). Other than that there is no pool store goop.

    Thanks for the reassurance.
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    Default Re: King Technology Pool Frog system AND green pool *Update*

    Glad there is some improvement today.

    By the way, I think you have overstated your volume in your signature. I also have a 27ft AG. The volume is more like 17-18K gallons. It would be a good idea to make that change. We need an accurate volume when giving chemistry advice especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermom View Post
    Glad there is some improvement today.

    By the way, I think you have overstated your volume in your signature. I also have a 27ft AG. The volume is more like 17-18K gallons. It would be a good idea to make that change. We need an accurate volume when giving chemistry advice especially.

    You are right! I left out some important info.

    I slope into a flat deep end that is 5' 6" or so that I think accounts for the greater volume. My geometry is not that hot. So I did some searching.

    I went here to get a better answer: http://www.online-calculators.co.uk/...ndervolume.php

    I figured the average radius of the deep end is 10' when you figure in the slope and the step off shelf with a depth of 1.5'. This came to about 471 cubic feet. The volume of that in gallons is about 3525.

    27' pool at 4' (according to google & Watermom) is 17100. I am sure this varies depending on water level.

    That puts me at about 20600 gal.

    It is kind of a weird volume since I feel that I always need to go slightly over what they ask for when treating for 10k gal at a time. I suppose since it is so close I would be better off to just think of the thing as 20k gal.

    By the way, I put in 1 1/4 bottle of Polyquat, not 2 bottles.

    Thanks Watermom for prompting me to "get to the bottom" of this *Snicker* (I think I just made a math joke)
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    Default Re: King Technology Pool Frog system AND green pool

    Thanks so much for your help! The pool is finally looking mostly great. The pool is like 95% clear, which is a huge improvement. I can clearly see the bottom in the deep end even with swimmers in it. I am adding chlorine 2-3 times a day to keep up with the chlorine demand.

    TA 100
    FC 2.8 (this morning it was 4.4)
    CC .6
    CYA 0 I added more 2 days ago, but have not tested since. The chemical may be expired since this is the second time I have added it this year and it has dropped
    pH 7.3
    CAL 280

    I am using the chlorine tablets left over from the Pool Frog. Those will be gone in a couple of weeks. I have the chlorinator set to "3".


    How do I shock to eliminate the CC when I am trying to keep the copper dissolved in the water?
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    Default Re: King Technology Pool Frog system AND green pool

    1. If you use tabs & dichlor, your CYA will rise gradually. As it does, you'll be able to get away from the 2x per day thing.

    2. CYA doesn't 'expire' -- if it's there, it's still good.

    3. Don't worry about the CC levels. If your pool doesn't 'stink' and isn't irritating . . . it's not a problem.

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    Default Re: King Technology Pool Frog system AND green pool

    OK- I will search for link in here about what kind of dichlor to use. I was trying to avoid trips to pool store and just use BBB with some stabilizer. If dichlor is a way to add stabilizer and chlorinate then that sounds like a good solution.

    I added stabilizer earlier this season, but the chemical in the bucket was old, like maybe 2-3 years. I added some and then the CYA did not go up so I am assuming the chemical in the bucket had expired. I think I will end up going to the pool store and have them test for CYA so I don't have to waste my own test materials. See about some dichlor tabs and or stabilizer, whatever is cheaper.

    Thanks for the CC info. Worried that this is the start of cloudiness, but I assume if I stay on top of it everything will be OK.
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    Default Re: King Technology Pool Frog system AND green pool

    BBB *does* stand for bleach, borax, and baking soda, but what it *means* is to use the best things for your pool, from the most practical source. We do often recommend using actual bleach and borax, but we also recommend other things depending your your pool and situation.

    Dichlor is the easiest way to start a small pool; dissolving stabilizer is a pain, if you don't have a skimmer and a large filter.

    On an outdoor viny pool -- you will be usually be fine if you (a) maintain consistent chlorine levels appropriate for your level of stabilizer, keep your pH between 7 and 8, and filter adequately.

    Things *can* get more complicated, if you have well water, have metals in your water, have fill water that's very high in alkalinity and calcium, and so on. But fortunately, most people don't have to struggle with those things.

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