King Technology Pool Frog system AND green pool

[PoolDoc]

I wouldn't use the mineral pack, no matter what. Use the chlorine.

When dealing with algae, anywhere between 7.0 and 8.0 is fine, unless you are using ammonia sulfate (Yellow Out, etc) which we do NOT recommend.

[Winicott]

Took water to pool store. Did not get full results since I dropped sample off and just really wanted Copper and CYA levels so I got them over phone quick.

CYA is 11
Copper is 1
Iron .1
This morning FC was 1.5, down .5 from last night (Yes, I brought it up faster than you suggested). I added more this morning to bring it back up to the 2-3 level.
pH is still holding steady at 7.5 this morning.

No staining that I can tell thus far, but I am concerned that copper number is high.
Water still cloudy. Can't see bottom. Filter pressure is continuing to rise, so I assume things are dying and being filtered out.
Pump running 24/7 for three days now.

What next? I am thinking (which could be the first problem) that I should shock THEN raise CYA since the shock threshold is lower when the CYA is low (Thank You Best Guess resource). Or are we looking at Polyquat (Are you sure 'Polyquat' is not really a swear word?) at this point?

Again thanks for the support.

[Winicott]

POP is dropping fast. I am treating this chemical issues with Mojitos.
.5oz lime juice
1tsp sugar
1.25 oz Rum
10 mint leaves
Muddle
Add crushed ice and 2 oz of soda water.

The nice thing is this works no matter the pool chemistry, unlike increasing and maintaining your pH. Also it is a partially green body of water that you can do something about fast, unlike your green pool which takes a few days...

[PoolDoc]

of course, while the use of Mojitos in pool treatment provides some *relief*, it doesn't really provide a *solution*.

[PoolDoc]

Copper is 1

I am thinking that I should shock THEN raise CYA since the shock threshold is lower when the CYA is low Or are we looking at Polyquat (Are you sure 'Polyquat' is not really a swear word?

Do *NOT* shock (raise the chlorine level suddenly). You NEVER want to do that when you have metals in the water, unless you have a specific case, and are trying to drop all the metals to the bottom --you can do that with iron, but not copper.

Polyquat is a good backup. It not only will help filter the metals out, as they precipitate, but it will reduce the need to 'shock' to control algae.

[Winicott]

Got it. Slow and Steady on the Chlorine to avoid the copper coming out of solution and staining the pool.

I will have to order some Polyquat. Not only is may POP dropping, but the family members are getting restless as well. I may have to use the full chemical name to avoid the side long stares I may get from peers and relatives.

Wife almost took me off pool duty after seeing I was adding borax to the pool to increase pH. I then educated her on the problems of using soda ash and explained that borax is the same thing as pH UP but just not as strong and not as expensive. Hooray for science!

as far as the POP relief- I disagree with your assertion that Mojitos are not part of a solution. Once consumed they are *in* solution in your blood chemistry Hey-oh!

Woot! I just made a chemistry joke!

Thanks again for the reply. I will check back once I have vacuumed 3-4 times.

I have to say I love this site. I really feel like I understand why I am doing what. Up until this week pool chemistry was a complete mystery. Thanks for maintaining all this info.

[PoolDoc]

Once consumed they are *in* solution in your blood chemistry

Woot! I just made a chemistry joke!

Well, you're one up on me: I don't know any chemistry jokes, and only one physics joke.*


* A really bad physics joke: What does a quantum duck say? "Quark, quark, quark." You can groan, now.

[Watermom]

Groan!

[Winicott]

Groan!

Yes it is groan-able, but honestly I don't care if he speaks Klingon, as long as BBB and this site helps me get the pool clear.

Lots of vacuuming and lots of testing and lots of filter cleaning. Getting there.