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    Default Re: use of liquid chlorine in AG vinyl lined pool

    Go ahead and post a link: I'd like to know what it is they are calling a "baleen filter".

    Regarding dilution: I haven't checked what Taylor says, but here are the facts:
    1. You MUST used distilled water when using dilution to extend the range on a chlorine test, because you have to dilute with some thing that (a) is chlorine free and (b) is chlorine DEMAND free. That rules out tap water (has chlorine) and bottled waters (may have chlorine demand), leaving distilled water as the option.

    2. You MAY use tap water when using dilution with a CYA test, since tap water is always CYA free, except in very rare circumstances.

    3. You MUST use distilled water when using dilution to perform a phenol red pH test on water with high chlorine; distilled water is the only readily available water that is free of all pH buffers.

    Regarding Xtra blue -- it's a diluted dichlor with added copper. If you haven't had stains yet, you may be OK.

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    i didnt order from these people. i ordered from amazon, and thought i was getting a unicel filter, though i may have misread something. read the area in the center of the page in blue. http://www.rjfiltration.com/

    everything you said makes sense about the distilled water so i will get some to have on hand. no stains from the xtra blue, and i used plenty of it. so, the green to clean should not cause me problems, or cloudiness? i only used 1 pound and followed the directions by adding shock after.
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    the pool is looking much nicer today. i can actually make out the swirly designes at the bottom of the liner! i cleaned out the filter today and a bunch of white/milky water was coming out. ive been brushing, or vacuming every afternoon. yesterday after vacuming i decided to leave the poll and vacume in the pool with the vacume head upside down on the floor. i left the poll to lay against the side. also, i left the vacume on the opposite side of the pool as the return is facing the flow of water, i figured this may help pull water from the bottom of the pool through the filter. it may have helped as i noticed a big difference this morning vs yesterday afternoon. PH is right at 7.4 - 7.5 and i have kept FC over 10.5 CC is at .5 or less

    we just MIGHT be able to use the pool this weekend for the first time this season! once i get this all cleared up i may drain off some water to get my CYA down around 80-90
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    Sounds like you are definitely making progress!

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    Default Re: use of liquid chlorine in AG vinyl lined pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
    ...yesterday after vacuming i decided to leave the poll and vacume in the pool with the vacume head upside down on the floor. i left the poll to lay against the side. also, i left the vacume on the opposite side of the pool as the return is facing the flow of water, i figured this may help pull water from the bottom of the pool through the filter...
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    it worked like a charm BigDave! i ran this set up over night two nights in a row after vacuming and it cut the cloudiness in half! ive been running the pump on low since my pump is a monster on high... but seems to be clearing up on low just fine.

    we got ALOT of rain the past few days. we got so much rain yesterday ( couple inches at least ) that the water level was above the top of the skimmer .rather than drain off water i left it alone. i thought for a second.... i realized that with the water below the top of the skimmer im only pulling water from the top 2 inches or so DUH. with the water over the top of the skimmer i noticed much more water flowing into the skimmer. its as if the water WANTS to go through the skimmer rather that be pulled through the skimmer. so this is a way to move MUCH more water through the skimmer/filter vs running the pump on high and blowing all the dead algae etc through the filter and back into the pool. this seems to have improved the clarity even more since yesterday. my wife was impressed this morning at how well the pool and water look.

    i hope all this makes sense. at the rate im going i expect to be crystal clear in another 2-3 days tops!

    when we started geeting all the rain i got a bit nervous as rain has caused me problems in the past, mainly throwing off my chemistry by diluting the water. testing with strips wasnt helping the situation. now with a proper test kit the rain IMO is a non issue from here on out! tested just a bit ago and the numbers are as follows...

    FC 12.5
    CC 0
    PH 7.4
    TA IS 110

    everything is where i want it to be. the only concern i have is TA is up about 10ppm from a week ago. is there a reason my TA is creeping up? im guessing a TA of 110 is OK for now, but what happens if it keeps trending up? from what im reading swimming and splashing will bring this down right? dont wanna use chemicals/acid if i dont need to to lower it.

    a huge thanks for everyones help! you guys rock!
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    Default Re: use of liquid chlorine in AG vinyl lined pool

    A TA of 110 is fine. If it keeps trending up, you might find that your pH doesn't stay as stable. If that happens, the steps to lower it are listed here http://www.poolsolutions.com/gd/lowe...p-by-step.html

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    my PH is staying pretty much right around 7.4/7.5 i havnt added borax in at least a few days and so it seems to be pretty stable for now. thanks!
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