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    Thanks. The thing w/ 2-speed is that I have a solar heating system with panels on the 2nd story roof, so I wasn't going to attempt trying to figure that out at this time. My current pump is SP3010X15AZ (or at least that's what I figure the replacement needs to be - my label is totally worn out). All I really have is the label on the motor, which is 1.5 HP, SF 1.

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    Hm-mh.

    Need pictures and drawings, sent to poolforum@gmail.com.

    Does your solar system have a vacuum relief valve? If not, you can use a timer to start on high, get the air out, and then switch to low. But, you'll need to do that 2x per day, to avoid air locking the solar system.

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    Thanks for the advice, but I don't think I'm ready to do this major upgrade. I'm very conservative. Also, I wanted to be able to keep the current motor and put it back on when the new one goes. What I would maybe like to do is get the EE version of the Super II for now. But I'm confused. What I have now is SP3010X15AZ. This is 1.5 HP, 1.0 SF. The EE line has a SP3010EEAZ model, which has 1.0 HP but 1.5 SF. Their higher rated is SP3010X15AZ, which has 1.5 HP, but 1.35 SF. There is a chart here. http://www.inyopools.com/Products/02201169001153.htm. Will the 1HP, 1.5 SF be 100% equivalent to what I have now? I've tried to understand the HP/SF connection, but (seeing that I'm conservative bordering on the scared), I am just looking for confirmation that SP3010EEAZ is the exact replacement for me and that I can use my current motor back on it when the time comes. Does this make any sense?

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    Here's the crossover data from Hayward:

    ( http://www.hayward-pool.com/prd/In-G...1_14002__I.htm )

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    OK, thanks again. So it looks like they are interchangeable, yes??? I even called Hayward, they said so, too. BUT: they also said the amp draw on BOTH is IDENTICAL on SP3010X15AZ and SP3010EEAZ. How can one be more energy efficient if they draw the same amps? On the Inyo chart, this looks different, with a lower amp on the EE pump. To make me even more confused, the manual has a KW number that is 1.1 for the regular and .75 for the EE. And it states to make sure one has the correct wire for the KW number. So is this a problem when installing? I actually ordered the EE already, but now I'm STILL not sure if it was the right move? Thanks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by versstef1 View Post
    I actually ordered the EE already, but now I'm STILL not sure if it was the right move?
    The time to decide whether you're going to jump in, is before you're in the air. Once you're in the air, it's better to concentrate on not going SPLAT!

    What you've run into is the old 'up rate' vs 'full rate' label game pool pump manufacturers have been playing for years. The *ONLY* difference between an SP3010EECZ and a SP3010X15AX is the label -- there is NO other difference: same parts; same motor (except the label); same efficiency; same wiring.

    Stefan, you have ALREADY made your choice. I don't see a lot of value in discussing whether it was the best possible choice, especially when we are so far behind in trying to help people. If you change your mind, and send it back, let us know, and we can look at it again.

    Maybe.

    You already know it's not what I would recommend.

    We absolutely believe in everyone's right to make their very own choices about their pool gear. If they want to buy SuperDuper All Eco Friendly DayGlo Pool Slime for $200 per ounce . . . we think that's absolutely their right (so long as it doesn't poison the neighbors ). But, we don't see a lot of point in discussing it with them -- it's not a product or an approach we support. We're not mad; we just need to focus on helping people who ARE listening to our advice.

    Best wishes!

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    Thank you. Wish you had told me that this is a game before. I was not able to discern that, and I've looked around. I don't understand how they get to call it energy efficient if it all is the same. Anyway, I pulled the trigger so that's it for. I hope you can appreciate that I am not ready for multispeed upgrade, not everyone is. I just moved i here a year ago and have had my fair share of maintenance issues. I came here for help with a specific decision, and the answer was a whole other animal. All good though, appreciate your efforts in maintaining this forum in general. Maybe someone will get something from reading my dumb post .... Namely that there is a labeling game going on.

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