Jacuzzi pool filter conversion kit?

[jacuzzipoolman]

Again, thanks to everyone for their responses. Waterbear, the Pentair system looks promising and with one filter - much cheaper! Sorry to be a pain, but i did not locate anythiing on converting the Jacuzzi manifold (currently inplace) to something that can take the Pentair center core and filter. Do you have any advice/tips on this? The Sta-Rite specifically targeted conversion, so this seemed easy to do. Since I will be doing this myself, anything you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

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Okay - being a real pest here - but I want to get this solved. I was able to locate some of the old style (my current manifold configuration) tri-clops 450 replacement filters online. This is one step down from what I currently have, but would be capable of handling 150 sq. ft. Do you think I could just order those - since they are about $150 cheaper and 150 sq. ft. should be enough capacity? The only dimension that seems off on them is the length at 28.875 compared to 34.875.

[waterbear]

The sta-rite is not a conversion for your jacuzzi. All the system3 series sta-rite filters can be converted from one type to another (cart to DE, etc). The pentair I was referring to would be a complete replacement for your existing filter and would cost much less than a system3 or the conversion kit for your existing filter if it costs $720. Clean and Clear $150 can usualy be had for around $500.

[PoolDoc]

Waterbear, what exactly is the "clean and clear" modification -- I mean, what parts are changed, and what do they do?

Ben

[waterbear]

Waterbear, what exactly is the "clean and clear" modification -- I mean, what parts are changed, and what do they do?

Ben

Not a modification, I was recommending that the current Jacuzzi filter be replaced with a 150 sq ft. Pentair Clean and Clear since you can buy the entire filter for less than the OP posted for the Jacuzzi mod. This filter should be more than large enough for a 13k pool/spa combo, although moving to one of the 4 cart Clean and Clear plus models is also an option.
The mod for his existing filter consists of taking out the mainifold and the cartridge support cores, dropping in the new manifold and support cores and then installing the round carts over the cores. It's really pretty simple but not necessarily the most cost effective way to go. Much depends on how much replacement carts (and the new manifold and 3 cores) cost.
The System3 mod kit is only for system3 systems to convert to a different type of filter medium such as DE to the carts. (One of the dubious, IMHO, selling points of the System3 filters that they can be converted from one type of filter medium to another by replacing the innards! I would stay very far away from both System3 and System2 cart filters! NOT fun to clean! Carts are very expensive for them also!

[PoolDoc]

My bad -- I wasn't clear. What is the internal difference between the Pentair Clean and Clear models, and the same filter, in the non-"Clean and Clear" version? Or, how does the "Clean and Clear" function of PENTAIR filters work?

[waterbear]

My bad -- I wasn't clear. What is the internal difference between the Pentair Clean and Clear models, and the same filter, in the non-"Clean and Clear" version? Or, how does the "Clean and Clear" function of PENTAIR filters work?

Clean and Clear is the NAME of one of the cart filters sold under the Pentair brand. It is a single cart filter. (They also sell the Dynamic line and the multi cart Clean and Clear Plus line under the Pentair brand). They were previously sold under both the Amercian and Pac Fab brands until Pentair (who owned those brands) just branded the filters as Pentair. (Just like Posiclear, System3, and System2 are NAMES of filters that Pentair sells under the Sta-Rite brand.)
The writing already seems to be on the wall that the Sta-Rite brand is disappearing and it seems newer units of the Posiclear, System3 and System2 are being branded Pentair.

Pentair has come out with a new version of the Clean and Clear filters called Clean and Clear RP. Perhaps you are thinking of these? The difference is the water inlet is in the middle of the tank instead of at the bottom so the dirty water hits the cart in the middle. They are new and not proven, IMHO and present some plumbing challenges since the outlet from the pump would have to travel up and then into the filter..

[PoolDoc]

Sorry: "clear pro", like here: http://www.pentairpool.com/pool-pro/...nology-205.htm

[waterbear]

Sorry: "clear pro", like here: http://www.pentairpool.com/pool-pro/...nology-205.htm

Not really sure what it is. I know that the laterals are different in the Clear Pro sand filter and the normal TR60.

[jacuzzipoolman]

Thanks to all for your suggestions. So my pump just stopped working yesterday (that's something beyond my capabilities) so I called my local pool guy. Luckily, it's a type that he can just remove the motor and replace it instead of having to put a whole new pump on. Anyway, I mentioned the filter situation to him, and he doesn't recommend trying to replace the 'innards" with another cartridge system, like the Pentair clean and clear. Just his opinion I guess.

[PoolDoc]

Anyway, I mentioned the filter situation to him, and he doesn't recommend trying to replace the 'innards" with another cartridge system, like the Pentair clean and clear. Just his opinion I guess.

If I were working for you, I wouldn't recommend it, either. From the service guy's legitimate point of view, a repair like that has a higher than normal chance of failure, and thus a higher than usual chance of getting blamed by the customer . . . for doing what the customer liked.

Experienced service guys in any trade get requests like that. For THEM, the smart thing is to just say, "No, thank you!", and recommend a more expensive solution (new filter) that is less likely to fail and more likely to please, once you've gotten past the bill.

For you, it's more complicated. If you DIY, it might be a good idea. If you can talk your guy into doing it for you, good for you, but bad for him. For his sake, if it doesn't work out, remember that YOU asked for it.