Ok I was just trying to give the simple version, but it might be best to explain in detail to get the correct answer. Yes we do use Bioguard, and I know this will be to the dismay of many, but at least for now we have no intention to stop. We are having many issues with the build of our pool, and to get these issuses resolved we are at the mercy of the builder who uses these products. If we are to stop and not maintain the chemicals the way they see fit we are much less likely to have them continue working with us in a civilized manner. Completely different story ugg! So saying that, I realize to some degree you all may not be able to help me a ton but I would still like to do what I can. That being said, I have no option but to do partial drains, I am familar with all of the issues with fiberglass we thoroughly researched all of this before we ever put the pool in, and I am draining the correct way no worries there. I am to do a repeat test at the dealer in the moning after replacing water for about 24 hours. As far as my chemicals I have the basic kits and test daily.

TC 10
FC 10
CYA 151???
Ph 8.0 (probably from all the new h20)
everything else is in line-

I will absolutely get a better way of testing CYA for my own satisfaction, but point is even the guys at my dealer know what I have to put in my pool is a problem. They aren't horrible people as some I have seen, and they agree in total about the actual chemicals it takes to run a pool and don't try to trick people onto buying things they don't need.

That being said my pool set up has not tolerated in anyway the liquid chlorine method. I have to shock on a regualr basis due to a baby pool we have and the way the flow was set up during construction. Yes this sucks for now, but its what I have. I would being pouring liquid in all day to to get a reading and lets be honest, maybe men who take care of pool will tote bleach from a store but sorry fellas I wont. I have 2 small children, am pregnant and husband works 100+ hours. It's never happening, espically not just to save a buck. Point being, is that I have high TDS, mostly probably cya, from all the crap I put in, I have high CYA and for now all I can really do is try to put less in my pool.

So after reading your forum in detail, for me right now I think if I can shock once weekely with the Burn out 35 and once with the bleach, I could at least minimize CYA and thusly keep my chlorine lower than I have to now which is what I think may be adding up to some of the extra shocking since what I have in my pool is less effective due to CYA. As long as I understand the chemical nature of it all it, and I am a pharmacist so I believe I do, shoudn't this theory help? And if so, I still am trying to minimize what goes in, so I was debating between 3 and 4 gallons for a shock level, again assuming I get my CYA to about 60.

I think it might also being worth mentioning, I know much talk is also about expense of these pool store chemicals, I also agree that they are expensive and though I dont love wasting money, that is just not a concern for us, I will be buying pool store chlorine b/c they deliver. I dont care if the burn out is more, it easy and thats fine for us as long as its getting me closer to the desired result of keeping my FC lower and ultimately adding less to my pool. Also based on you above suggestion, I need to add no chlorine at all until this comes down, this is all still from our shock at opening, which replacing water will also help with. SO I know I am not the norm but can you guys offer any other suggestions within the parameters I must stay? I guess I should also mention I honestly have no issues with my chemicals after coming up with a plan that has worked for us. No cloudnies, algae or anything, only keeping chlorine. Couldnt this be soley from my high stabilizer? Thanks in advance for all of your help. This site has been very informative.