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    Default Re: Pump troubleshooting

    What's the rating of the breaker? 13.8 is pretty close to 15. How far from the panel? Cord Length? Wire guage? I'd guess that if it's a 15 Amp breaker and the breaker is pretty far from the outlet (wire length) with 14 ga wire and an extension cord and a couple lights - you could be drawing more than 15 Amps. Or, maybe not.
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    Default Re: Pump troubleshooting

    It's a 15 amp breaker and pretty far from the panel. I'll admit it's not done correctly.
    It's a heavy guage extension cord run into an outlet in the garage. We're in the process in getting a new subpanel put into the garage so the pool is on it's own circuit much closer than all the way in the house.
    But it's been working like this for a long time and all of the sudden now it doesn't work?
    What I've done since posting....
    I've had the motor checked now and the windings were recoated and baked, bearings replaced and resealed and I've replaced the 15 amp breaker with a new one and we're still tripping the breaker..
    Any thoughts?
    thanks
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    Default Re: Pump troubleshooting

    Check your voltage at the pump, with the motor running. If the voltage is low -- I'm betting it is -- that's a motor killer.

    However, if you check the extension cord, and it's anything smaller than 12-3 . . . you'll need to replace the cord.

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    If you have access to a clamp-on ampmeter then measure the actual current the motor draws. The current will change with motor loading. That along with the voltage at the motor like Ben suggested will tell you the true facts of your pumps operation. You are near the breakers trip point, according to the motor plate, and that's not so good.
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    The change over time may be attributable to normal wear and tear if you've been using the same extension cable. Cable insulation can breakdown over time due to exposure and heat. Heat increases resistance in cable. Resistance lowers voltage. AC motors spin at a fixed speed and will use as much power as necessary to keep that speed. so... as cable heats up, resistance goes up, voltage goes down, as voltage goes down, current (Amps) goes up because Volts * Amps = Watts (Power) and power is fixed.

    As Ben points out, low voltage will kill your motor this is because the windings are sized for a certain amount of current when current goes up the windings overheat and ... time for a new motor. Ben's right that a larger extension cord may help, 12/3 may not be enough depending on length (resistance is also a function of length). Be aware, 10 guage cords are very expensive.
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    Did you have the motor capacitor checked?? I would assume that was done with the other work.

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