Re: Searching for more about "Operating Swiming Pools at High PH"...
----------
Waterbear,
- Thanks for the link to 'this post' detailing the chemistry behind TA and PH relationship. All I can say is "huunnhh?"
OMG it's been w-a-y too long since I swirled acids and bases to make pretty colors...(and that should explain my chemistry depth...). I guess If I took the time I might get it...but I'll just go with the "yeah, what he said" route.
It' does have me thinking though...can't I just throw a big azz blender in there, outgass all the co2 and let the chips fall where they may? Wouldn't PH & TA & atmospheric co2 come to a final balance and be happy? ... assuming those final levels aren't too nasty? Do us pool people have to keep tweaking PH & TA because they just want to end up being at nasty levels?
- Ok. Forget about the Watergram, for me. But it is fun to spin around 'n stuff
.
- I just read Ben's sticky on Alkalinity adjustment. V-E-R-Y cool...and I kinda understand it! I'll be keeping that baby in my bookmarks folder...along with all the other great posts here. 
----------
Ben,
Thanks for the background on what prompted your 'high PH' page. I'm helpless looking at those graphs, but thanks for the fill in. I read the Chem-Geek page. Poor guy, sounds like he's got a huge bruise on his forehead by now... 3 cheers for him though! 
----------
BigDave,
Thanks for the link to Ben's Muriatic Acid handling for Dummies. I must say...I did *exactly* the same things as he had written....<sigh>....ok...ok...so maybe I didn't do 'everything'...'exactly' the same way..
..But I *did* have my pump running at least! 
I'll be sure to smarten up...if I ever have to touch that bottle again.
----------
For what it's worth:
I ran a full battery of tests tonight, around 10pm. The pool was uncovered all day with the pump running 24/7 (since it's so damn cheep to do so!!! <giggle><giggle>
)
Testkit is a Taylor K-2006 
Pool water:
TC = 5
CC = 0 (has always been 0, but bio-load has been pretty minimum since day1)
PH = 7.6 (muriatic acid dosing seems to have worked as required)
TA = 110 (this has been the same-ish since day1)
Hardness (not sure what the short form is...CA?) = 100 (this has also been the same-ish since day1)
CYA = not testing yet...still dissolving. My target is 40-ish.
Tap water: (I let the cold only tap run for 10 minutes to pull a good sample from the main line.)
TC = 2ppm
CC = 0
PH = 7.8
TA = 100
Hardness = 100
CYA = not tested, not expecting any...should I be?
(hate to waste reagent on that one...stoopid tiny reagent bottles
)
After all this great discussion...I'm not going to dink around with TA & PH...unless I have to. I'll let it ride for the rest of this season and see just how much of a fight it puts up. The real battle will come next season... 
I still need to settle on a 'good' set/range of values for TA & PH...but I'm sure I'll find that in the forums...
It' s been no harm done, but I am always inspired by efficient and better ways of doing things...even when I don't have the fullest grasp of what I'm diving into.
Thanks for the reset yous guys. 
I guess this thread can be closed, if yous want to close it, since my thread originating question has been dealt with. I can always re-ask my above PH/TA related questions in the proper thread...
5300 Gallon (15' x 52" composite & aluminum - AG)
(Not Salt Water - Liquid Chlorine - Trying BBB...)
Sta-Rite Mod3 60sqft DE Filter (with 8lbs charge) - Sta-Rite 2" Dyna-Wave Pump (<<< L-O-V-E )
All 2" plumbing (except 3" suction line, modified skimmer) - Two 1.5" returns at 180degrees apart (skimmer return piped down to floor)
"15' round 5.1K gal AG pool; ~10% liquid Chlorine; Sta-Rite Mod3 60sqft DE Filter DE filter; Sta-Rite 2"" Dyna-Wave Pump pump; 11hrs; Taylor K-2006
'drops' FAS-DPD Chlorine, ; utility water; summer: ; winter: ; iPhone; PF:24"
Bookmarks