All great advice. I think I'm gonna leave my pump/tank alone and go with the 2-speed motor on my existing pump.
All great advice. I think I'm gonna leave my pump/tank alone and go with the 2-speed motor on my existing pump.
~18K gal IG Gunite -- 1-HP Pentair Whisper Flo with new 2-speed motor. Intermatic T1000 Dual Speed Timer -- Tagelus 60D sand filter
Hayward SWCG (up to 40K gal.) -- Polaris 280 and booster pump -- Rainbow (now Pentair) in-line chlorine Feeder.
FYI I installed the 2-speed motor a few days ago. Now I'm circulating the pool, which turned into a swamp while the motor was out.
I added about 25 gallons of bleach and am backwashing almost daily. I haven't yet tried the low speed because I don't have a toggle switch yet.
The motor came with three connections : L1, L2, and A. The diagram was stated so that you could connect I believe L1 and A up it would be low speed, L1 and L2 would be full speed.
Am I correct in thinking that a jumper between L2 and A would allow me to switch the speeds? In other words, incoming power to L1 and A, with a jumper with toggle switch between A and L2 to switch between low/high.
~18K gal IG Gunite -- 1-HP Pentair Whisper Flo with new 2-speed motor. Intermatic T1000 Dual Speed Timer -- Tagelus 60D sand filter
Hayward SWCG (up to 40K gal.) -- Polaris 280 and booster pump -- Rainbow (now Pentair) in-line chlorine Feeder.
Please send the exact motor make and model, so we can look up the manual and diagram -- I don't want to answer, and I don't want anyone else to answer, without seeing that diagram. You could lose a new motor that way!
PoolDoc / Ben
AO Smith
1 HP 230V B2982
http://www.aosmithmotors.com/product...69&terms=B2982
I am fairly competent when it comes to installing things like controls and motors so you don't have to think I'm gonna fry myself doing this.
I guess we can't easily post pictures but high is L1, then you have L2, and then you have A for low speed. I'm thinking that I should connect one incoming wire to A and one to L2. For full speed I install a switch between A and L1.
Last edited by TheGoose; 04-13-2012 at 03:07 PM.
~18K gal IG Gunite -- 1-HP Pentair Whisper Flo with new 2-speed motor. Intermatic T1000 Dual Speed Timer -- Tagelus 60D sand filter
Hayward SWCG (up to 40K gal.) -- Polaris 280 and booster pump -- Rainbow (now Pentair) in-line chlorine Feeder.
Sorry, if I offended you . . . but I've worked with too many electricians who couldn't wire a DPDT switch for a 2 speed pump, for me to take anything for granted. Here's the connection drawing:
Based on that drawing, yes, can toggle between high & low, and switch speeds. Remember, that you need a 15A MOTOR or INDUCTION rated switch. And, if you place the switch external to the motor, you need to attach a warning label indicating that the switch does NOT disconnect power to the motor. Intermatic has a DPDT time clock you can use, that's not much more than an SPDT clock.
PoolDoc / Ben
That's the picture I was going to post.
You didn't offend me, I was just trying to relay that you don't have to do the typical dummy comments like "shut off the breakers" and such. I work with pumps/motors everyday, some of which are thousands of horsepower.
Thanks for the warning about the 15 amp switch, it makes sense.
~18K gal IG Gunite -- 1-HP Pentair Whisper Flo with new 2-speed motor. Intermatic T1000 Dual Speed Timer -- Tagelus 60D sand filter
Hayward SWCG (up to 40K gal.) -- Polaris 280 and booster pump -- Rainbow (now Pentair) in-line chlorine Feeder.
Actually, I typically include the "DPDT" acronym as a test. If you'd reacted with a "Huh?", I would have launched the "Hire an electrician; you can't safely do this yourself" boiler plate.
However, I've learned the hard way knowledge in one area does not bleed over into a related area, for many people. I can't tell you how many graduate chemists I've dealt with who get confused by pool chemistry . . . or who find Chem_Geek just as hard to follow as I do! So, telling my you work with 1,000 HP motors doesn't tell me you know how to wire a 8A 230V motor, in a wet area, using the crappy conduit sold for residential and light commercial use! (Hint: always, ALWAYS use a wired ground!)
PoolDoc / Ben
OK, one last question for now:
Since I was using my regular 1-HP pump at about 12-15 hours per day, what should I run this new configuration on low speed?
I'm hearing that if it will pump ~60 GPM at full speed, it will still do ~20-30 GPM at low speed, but uses way less electricity to pump at the low speed. So I'm supposed to be able to run twice as long on low as I did on high and still save money. Is this a true statement or is it more marketing? Also I've read reports both ways that it increases the efficiency of your filter since the velocity of the water is so much slower that the filter will work better.
Thanks.
~18K gal IG Gunite -- 1-HP Pentair Whisper Flo with new 2-speed motor. Intermatic T1000 Dual Speed Timer -- Tagelus 60D sand filter
Hayward SWCG (up to 40K gal.) -- Polaris 280 and booster pump -- Rainbow (now Pentair) in-line chlorine Feeder.
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