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    Default Re: Time to replace sand?

    POPP! Pool Owner Patience and Persistance!

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    Evening numbers:
    FC 0.0
    CC 2.0
    pH 7.3
    TA 180
    Headed out to get more acid to keep the pH at 7.0, but glad to see that the CC finally is in the 1 - 2 range. Thanks for the reminder about POPP Carl.
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    On 6/17 Janet wrote:
    "So..his (Ben's) recommendation was to break it (the ammonia) down slowly with the lower doses of bleach, until you start getting CC readings of 1 or 2--at which time you can up the doseage and go ahead and get rid of it. So...stick with the 6 gallon dose for now."

    This is the 2nd day that my CC was 2 or lower. Is it time to up the dosage of bleach?

    Here're this evening's numbers:
    FC 0.0
    CC between 1.5 and 2.0
    pH 7.4 (put in 30 oz dry acid)
    TA 190

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Time to replace sand?

    If you want to go to a 9 gallon dose, that would be OK.

    If you can, use muriatic instead of dry acid. It's cheaper, stronger, and better for your pool. Of course it's more noxious to handle -- gloves, glasses & watch the fumes when you pour! But you're going to need to lower your alkalinity, so keep pushing the pH back down.

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    Thanks Ben - I'll up the dose to 9 gallons starting with this evening's dose.
    FC 2.5 (first time I've seen FC in a while)
    CC 2.0
    pH 7.3 I switched back to muriatic acid this morning.
    TA 190-200
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    Evening numbers:
    FC 0.5
    CC 1.5
    pH 7.2 (put in more m. acid)
    TA 180

    Tonight the dosage increased to 9 gallons of 6% bleach - water is quite green, visibility about 20"
    Ordered a couple 5 gal carboys from Uline and found a local cleaning supply that sells 12.5% bleach for $2.75/gal. so I can keep up the dosage until the water clears - it will seem like alchemy when it does!
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    Morning report:
    FC 10.5
    CC 2.5
    pH 7.2 (added more acid)
    TA 190
    Water still green with low visibility.
    Taylor K-2006, IG Vinyl 26,000g, Sand filter 275 lbs, 3/4 HP Hayward Super Pump II, CYA over 100, Using 12.5% bleach

    18'x36' rectangle 26K gal IG pool; Liquid Chlorine 12.5% ; Sand Filter 275 lbs. sand filter; Hayward Super Pump II 3/4 HP pump; 23 hrshrs; Taylor K-2006; delivered via truck; summer: ; winter: ; iPad; PF:4.6

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    Here is a photo of my pool taken this morning. This is the BEFORE photo.

    I've spent the past two weeks working to eliminate the excess ammonia and lower the TA - this was not a process where progress is visible.

    Now that Ben has increased the evening dosage of bleach to shock levels (considering my high CYA), there should be some visible progress as the algae and visibility problems resolve.

    I'll post an AFTER photo as soon as everything is balanced and clear. This is day 33 since opening the pool - wish I'd never gone to the pool store...

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    Evening numbers:
    FC 4.0
    CC 2.0
    pH 7.2 (added 1 pint of m. acid)
    TA 170
    Evening bleach dose = 9 gallons
    Taylor K-2006, IG Vinyl 26,000g, Sand filter 275 lbs, 3/4 HP Hayward Super Pump II, CYA over 100, Using 12.5% bleach

    18'x36' rectangle 26K gal IG pool; Liquid Chlorine 12.5% ; Sand Filter 275 lbs. sand filter; Hayward Super Pump II 3/4 HP pump; 23 hrshrs; Taylor K-2006; delivered via truck; summer: ; winter: ; iPad; PF:4.6

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    Default Re: Time to replace sand?

    Morning numbers:
    FC 18.5
    CC 2.0
    pH 7.2 (added another pint of m. acid)
    TA 180
    This morning the FC was much higher than in the past and I think it may be affecting the TA test. Today the TA test water turned from green to briefly bluish to pinkish. All other days the TA test water has changed from green to briefly purple to a deeper red.

    The pool water has a little more visibility (almost 30") and the shade of green is lighter so the shock is attacking the algae and POPP seems to be paying off.

    The recycle man has dozens of bleach bottles to pick up this morning, but my 5 gal. carboys arrived last night and today I'm making my first run to fill them with 5 gal of 12.5% bleach.
    • Given that my CYA is between 100-200, can anyone give me a ballpark estimate of how much bleach I'll be using each week to keep my chlorine in the 8-15 target zone (once my water is balanced and clear)?
    I'm using a 9 gallons/day dosage now until the FC holds within 1 ppm from one evening to the next (once I switch over to 12.5% bleach, the 9 gallons will convert to just under 4.5 gal).
    Thanks!
    Taylor K-2006, IG Vinyl 26,000g, Sand filter 275 lbs, 3/4 HP Hayward Super Pump II, CYA over 100, Using 12.5% bleach

    18'x36' rectangle 26K gal IG pool; Liquid Chlorine 12.5% ; Sand Filter 275 lbs. sand filter; Hayward Super Pump II 3/4 HP pump; 23 hrshrs; Taylor K-2006; delivered via truck; summer: ; winter: ; iPad; PF:4.6

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