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    What Jan is saying is whoever told you that you "must" have your filter set to "recirculate" rather than "filter" when you add bleach is full of it. It has NO negative effect. However, having it set to "Waste" or "Backwash" will dump your new chlorine down the drain.

    If you remember your HS chemistry, the formula for salt is NaCl, or Sodium Chloride. Salt-water generators break the salt down for the chlorine ions. BTW, bleach is made from brine.

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    In other words, a "salt water" pool IS a chlorine pool. It uses a saltwater chlorine generator (SWCG) to generate chlorine from the chloride ions from the salt that was dissolved in the pool. When the chlorine gets used by killing a pathogen or oxidizing an organic or getting broken down by sunlight, it gets reverted back to chloride ion. So the SWCG can be thought of as using electricity to boost the energy of chloride to chlorine which then goes on to kill the nasties or oxidize bather waste or interact with sunlight in which cases its energy is given up and it reverts back to chloride salt.

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    Thought i said that!
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    I came back from the pool store and their test results were:

    FAC 3
    TAC 3
    pH 7.6
    TA 80
    CYA 40
    CH 200
    Salt 3300 (my aqua rite reads 2900)

    My own simple test results:

    pH 7.5
    CL 2 (close but mot quite 3)

    Should I still add the 5 gallons of bleach? Would that raise my chlorine too much? Isn't 1.5 gallons of bleach equal to 5 ppm? (22000 gallon pool)

    Do you buy your CYA (chlorine stabilizer) at the pool store?

    For future references...what are the measurments for the Borax? 1lb of Borax equals how much pH?

    Thanks, I will run more filter 24/7 to help clear it up.

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    Default Re: New pool owner and have MANY questions. Need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlD View Post
    Thought i said that!

    Thought I said it too!!

    Anyway, back to the questions.... 1.5 gallons of bleach in a 22000 gallon pool actually should raise your chlorine by about 4, and you don't even achieve shock level with a CYA of 60 until you get it up to 20 ppm, so if you're still trying to kill an algae bloom, you definitely need to go ahead and add the bleach per Pooldoc's instructions, and try to maintain the 20 ppm by adding chlorine as often as you can during the day in order to kill off the bloom. The filter running 24/7 will remove the dead algae from the water, but the chlorine is what will actually kill it.

    You can get CYA at WalMart, in the pool/spa section, or at the pool store.

    How much Borax it takes to raise pH by a certain amount depends on your TA level.. The higher the TA, the more Borax it will take to make the pH move. Somewhere around here there's a calculation for it, but I'll have to search for it and come back to edit this post...



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    Thanks Janet. I have learned more on this site the last couple of days than talking to a pool person or searching other internet sites. Hopefully, my blueish cloudy pool will be ready for this weekend.

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    Keep that chlorine up and the filter running, and odds are good you'll be ready!

    Glad you're finding the forum helpful.

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    By the way --- when buying cya it is sometimes called Conditioner or Stabilizer. Check the label ingredients. If it says cyanuric or isocyanuric acid, that is the right stuff.

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