Re: Fighting Algae for months
I can't help with the popup system question. Hopefully someone else will come along who can. If you can't get it to work, then you will have to buy some other type of vacuum system to use.
Keep adding bleach. As many times per day as you can, test and take the chlorine back up. The more consistently you can do this, the faster you'll clear the pool.
Chlorine does not evaporate. The reason your level is low so soon after adding it is because 1) you have a low CYA reading and 2) it is being used up fighting algae which is what you want.
Bleach, bleach, bleach. Lots of bleach.
Re: Fighting Algae for months
In the immortal words (about the only words!) of Keanu Reeves: That's some serious algae -- pictures are SO helpful to letting us see just what you are dealing with.
You've got a concrete pool, and a PF:8. Each gallon of plain 6% bleach will add about 4 ppm of chlorine to your pool. So, Monday evening, add 15 gallons of bleach to your pool -- about 60 ppm, and plan to add 8 more the following evening.
Don't mess around -- you don't want to wrestle with your algae; you want to kill.
BUT . . . if at all possible lower your pH tomorrow AM -- try 1/2 gallon of muriatic acid (see guide linked in my blue signature!) and see if that will get your pH below 7.8, before your start dumping all that bleach in.
Re: Fighting Algae for months
Yeah We are under total Algae attack!
I added about 7.1 Gallons of 6% bleach, just checked my Chlorine level (with dilution method) and its only reached to about 6ppm(measured right after sun is down).
I only have one more jug of bleach, so have to run to Walmart to get more.
And I added 1/2 gallon muriatic acid earlier before noon and measured the pH awhile ago, it is 7.2, though i tested for pH after adding few gallons of bleach.
I can add more bleach right away tonight and add the next batch (like you said) tomorrow evening.
I still have the problem of finding out how I can vacuum the pool, since I dont have a vacuum cleaner and my pop-up cleaning system is all messed up now, does nt seem to pop up and rotate, though I can see water coming out through them especially the ones at the shallow end. May be I should get a manual cleaner to vacuum until I can figure out the pop up issue?
As you just saw in the picture, pool is very cloudy and green!! But I am ready for the fight :) I will post regular pictures to show you how things go. Thanks!
Re: Fighting Algae for months
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I still have the problem of finding out how I can vacuum the pool, since I dont have a vacuum cleaner and my pop-up cleaning system is all messed up now, does nt seem to pop up and rotate, though I can see water coming out through them especially the ones at the shallow end. May be I should get a manual cleaner to vacuum until I can figure out the pop up issue?
Popup cleaning systems are MASSIVE energy wasters, and not very effective vacuum systems, except where the pool debris consists of a little light dust.
I would DEFINITELY recommend getting a manual vacuum system, and using it.
Re: Fighting Algae for months
+ Plain Clorox is fine.
+ Do you have a K2006 on order? (links below) If you're calcium is not too high, you can use cal hypo instead of bleach; and if your stabilizer is low, you can use dichlor.
+ The rather expensive ProVac is the vac head I've always used professionally; we have 6 year old 30+" one at the 200,000 local pool we service that's used once a week, and is still kicking. You'd want the 14" model though -- we use a dedicated pump to operate the big one!
Rainbow R201276 ProVac Commercial Vacuum Head 14"
This hose and pole are OK, but not necessarily better than what you can find locally:
Poolmaster 33430 Premium Vacuum Hose with Swivel Cuff, 30-Feet by 1-1/2-Inch
Hydro Tools 8365 8- to 16-Foot Adjustable Fluted Premium Fluted Telescopic Pool Pole, White
+ You should clean your filter, and then note the pressure 5 minutes after you first bring it back into full operation, with DE. Clean again, after the pressure rises more than 5 psi, but less than 10.
+ You should precoat the filter with amount of DE specified in the manual, EACH time.
+ You'll be able to extend filter runs by adding 1/4 of the pre-coat amount of DE each time you see the pressure up a psi or so. Don't do this more than 4x, before cleaning.
+ Adding bleach via the skimmers -- FIRST, make SURE there are NO chemicals, especially tabs, in the skimmer! -- will also extend the run
+ You should be able to find available bleach by using Walmart's online stock check:
Great Value: Bleach, 3 Qt
Great Value: Bleach, 1.42 Gal
Ben
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+ Get a cheap OTO (yellow drops) / phenol test kit, or if available at YOUR Walmart (check availability), get the HTH 6-way DROPS test kit, which is compatible with the Taylor K2006. Test the pool as soon and you can, and post the results. If you get the 6-way kit, ALSO test the water you FILL the pool with, especially if it's a well, and post THOSE results as well. (The HTH is the best available kit you're likely to find locally, but it's not the K-2006. It can only provide rough measurements chlorine levels above 5 ppm, and it measures "TOTAL" hardness, rather than "CALCIUM" hardness, which is not ideal.)
+ Having a good test kit makes pool care easier for EVERYONE, but is an ESSENTIAL tool for pools with problems. A good test kit means a kit that can test chlorine from 0 - 25 ppm, pH, alkalinity, calcium hardness, and stabilizer with reasonable accuracy. Test strips (AKA 'guess-strips' ) do NOT meet this standard. Some pool store testing is accurate; most is not. The ONLY way you'll know whether your pool store is accurate or bogus, is by testing accurately your own self. On the other hand, pool store 'computer' dosing recommendations are NEVER trustworthy -- ignore them. They are designed to sell more chemicals than you need, and WILL cause many pool problems.
+ We recommend the Taylor K-2006 test kit, which meets the requirements above, for many reasons. The HTH 6-way drops kit is a great starter kit, and is compatible with the K2006 (it's made by Taylor). There are a few alternatives; for example Lamotte makes an FAS-DPD kit that's OK -- but it costs 3x as much. But, we're not aware of any test that is better, and since we are all familiar with the K-2006 (and can help you with it) we recommend it exclusively ( Test kit info page )
One caution for the 2012 season: Amazon does not stock the kits directly. So when buying at Amazon, Amato is our current preferred seller. However, they often don't list enough stock to last the whole day, so try order mid-morning. You should expect a delivered cost under $60 for the K2006A and under $95 for the K2006C. If you can't find that, wait a day.
+ Here are links to the kits we recommend (you can check local availability on the HTH kit, using the Walmart link):HTH 6-Way Test Kit @ Walmart
Taylor K2006A (3/4 oz bottles) @ Amazon
Taylor K2006C (2 oz bottles) @ Amazon
Re: Fighting Algae for months
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Its looks like I lost the battle the first day.
I came back from work and tested the pool and Cl is just 0.5 and pH is 8.0 (I had added 8.5 Gallons of Bleach yesterday),
Normal since the chlorine is working and being used up to kill the algae. It does take a lot of chlorine to go from green to clean.
Re: Fighting Algae for months
Ben,
Thanks for the detailed information. I ordered the Taylor kit from Amato, not sure when I will get it. I also bought the hose and the pole from your link. Thanks! But didnt take the vacuum head, went with a cheaper one from Amazon.
Today morning the pool was cloudy bluish.. I took this picture today morning.
I checked the Cl level when I was back from work, its around 1 ppm and pH shows 7.2( I havent added any acid after the 0.5 Gal on 12th) . I brushed the pool and all the algae came afloat and the pool is a bit green again(I should have had the vacuum). I backwashed the filter and added DE (added only 4 lbs since I ran out, supposed to add 7.5 lbs). Also removed the debris from the strainer. Added about 8.52 Gallons of bleach again.
And the walmart link was awesome, l chose the one with stock and got the bleach..
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Re: Fighting Algae for months
Looks like your getting there! Nice looking pool, I'm sure you will be enjoying it soon.
Re: Fighting Algae for months
Thanks RedwingT, Spensar.
Today was not as hot as usual, and seems as though the chlorine is holding a bit. I checked the level in the morning and the my HTH kit showed orangish brown color. And retested in the evening and its holding at 6ppm.
I added 5.65 Gal more today. Pool is definitely getting better, but need to hold it there..Picture taken this evening.
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