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    Default Re: New to Forum could use a little help

    Thanks a bunch. I shocked my well last night to knock down the iron. Will wait till next week, test then fill.

    One Question: Should I add anything along with the sequestering agent when I fill?

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    No, don't add anything else while filling. Once the pool is filled you can stat to balance the water. Make sure you have a good test kit that tests for Chlorine, (free chlorine & combined chlorine) Ph, Alkalinity, Calcium and Cya.
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    Hi Jkoch;

    Have wrestled with pools filled with metal contaminated well water many times. There's no perfect solution.

    First, with almost no exceptions, pool products for stains and metal control do NOT remove the metals from the water or the pool. They may temporarily make them disappear, but all the metal is still there.

    Second, there are only three places metals in your pool water can go: (1) your filter, (2) your water, OR (3) your pool -- as stains. Obviously, #1 is to be preferred, since that's the only way you can get it OUT of your pool.

    Third, if you put metals in your pool, you will have stain problems. Period. If it's only a little metal, especially iron, the problem can be small. Otherwise . . .

    Fourth, the only way to really avoid problems with metals in your pool, is to not put them in your pool in the first place.

    In a situation like yours there are a few things you can do that will help. For example with iron or manganese, shocking your well (how do you do that??) might leave some of the metals in the well.

    But to keep metals out of the pool here's what I'd recommend:
    1. Make sure your filter is big enough -- that means bigger than standard for AG pools.
    2. Chlorinate with trichlor via the skimmer -- this will tend to oxidize the iron so it will be filtered out.
    3. Using cal hypo tabs would be even better (not at the same time as trichlor!!), if you could find any, but . . .
    4. Failing that, read this thread: http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showpos...2&postcount=27

    Let me know if any of this makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoolDoc View Post

    In a situation like yours there are a few things you can do that will help. For example with iron or manganese, shocking your well (how do you do that??) might leave some of the metals in the well.
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    Cal-hypo pellets!

    We have a well drilled into a "sulfur vein", common in this part of Pennsylvania. What that means, in practice, is that the well water contains sulfur producing bacteria which are harmless but exceedingly stinky. Think rotten eggs. We treat the raw well water with an apparatus which injects a chlorine mist into it and then filters that out via a carbon filter.

    About once every other year when the equipment fails due to corrosion of parts from the chlorine we have to shock the well.You do that by dropping chlorine pellets directly into the well. The amount depends on the depth of water in the well; you're shooting for 5 ppm for shock level. People who use pellets to sanitize their wells on a daily basis maintain somewhere between 0.6 to 3 ppm.

    The pellets are 3/8" in diameter x 5/16" long and weigh 1 g each. 70% cal-hypo.

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    What do those pellets cost? How fast would they dissolve in a skimmer?

    Pellets like those could help a LOT of people with metal problems.

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    Thanks for the input. I shocked my well yesterday with hopes of reducing the iron.

    What about filling with my softened water?

    It will take a few days but the softener dealer looked at the 14.5K gallons to fill an said it would work. My softeners utilizes fine mesh resin which has in the past taken out most if not all of my iron. Typically a fine mesh resin softener can take up to 3 ppm of iron out reasonably well.

    So, Should I use softened water?

    Thanks a bunch.

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    If you've got a softener, they are very effective at removing metals, and the added sodium* shouldn't be a problem at all.

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    * softeners add sodium, at least till they need to be regen'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkoch View Post
    Thanks for the input. I shocked my well yesterday with hopes of reducing the iron.

    What about filling with my softened water?

    It will take a few days but the softener dealer looked at the 14.5K gallons to fill an said it would work. My softeners utilizes fine mesh resin which has in the past taken out most if not all of my iron. Typically a fine mesh resin softener can take up to 3 ppm of iron out reasonably well.

    So, Should I use softened water?

    Thanks a bunch.

    I'm on a well with lots of nasty things (Iron, sulfur, super high Alk and who knows what else... ), and I filled my pool with the water from my treatment system and I've been totally happy! I have several filters and a salt softner, so if it's possible, I would sure consider it!
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    I'll give the plumbing shop a call tomorrow about the cost of the cal-hypo well shock pellets.

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    Default Re: New to Forum could use a little help

    For anyone looking to shock their well which does help reduce clear water iron (you know it is clear water iron when the water comes out of the tap clear but turns brown after a few minutes). Below is a nice instruction.

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