Thanks CarlD- I checked first on-line and yep, they are identical. Same price too.

Watermom- Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure why bleach doesn't drive up the ph more? But hey, I liked chemistry so much in high school I took it twice. Same class! Passed with a "C" the 2nd time!

Funny in a sense that people kind of wish they had been "badder." The stats go accross cultural and class lines too.

PF rocks! If I am grasping this, then it is a miracle. Just bought ~15 pounds of 20 Mule Team Borax for $9.00. When I was at Leslie geting the test kit I priced Soda Ash. For 15 lbs. it was $30.00.