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    Default Re: Center Pipe in sand filter breaking

    Hi Shari and welcome to the forum. If it was freeze damage I too would think it would show up as soon as you turned it on, not 3-4 weeks after. At this point all I have are some questions. Is it a top or side mount valve assembly and what is the filter make/model? Reason I ask about top/side is the internal plumbing is different. The way you mentioned the 'center pipe' it sounds like a top mount. Also, what kind of a break was it and was it the same both times? Describe it the best you can.
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    Default Re: Center Pipe in sand filter breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by Poconos View Post
    Hi Shari and welcome to the forum. If it was freeze damage I too would think it would show up as soon as you turned it on, not 3-4 weeks after. At this point all I have are some questions. Is it a top or side mount valve assembly and what is the filter make/model? Reason I ask about top/side is the internal plumbing is different. The way you mentioned the 'center pipe' it sounds like a top mount. Also, what kind of a break was it and was it the same both times? Describe it the best you can.
    Al
    It's a top mount Hayward Pro Series S180T. For the first break, (last year) the top 3 or 4 inches of the pipe broke right off, with a split going down to about 3 inches below it, and there was also a crack going up about 2 inches from the bottom. The second break (this year) the pipe almost looked as if it had been twisted--there was a split all the way down from the top to the bottom, with cracks/splits radiating down horizontally along the split.

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    Default Re: Center Pipe in sand filter breaking

    Bumping this to the top hoping someone can figure this out...should I buy a spare lateral assembly online so I have one if it breaks again? I can get one a LOT cheaper online than I can from the local pool store.

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    Default Re: Center Pipe in sand filter breaking

    Sure looks like freeze damage but still don't understand why it didn't show up immediately and also why it was damaged in the first place. If it wasn't drained completely then the damage at the bottom could be explained, partially, but the top????? I really can't think of any scenario that would cause this.

    Anyone else with ideas?

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    Default Re: Center Pipe in sand filter breaking

    What size pump do you have? Your filter is a 150lb sand filter. If your pump is too big it could damage your filter.

    Let's rule that out as a cause first.
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    Default Re: Center Pipe in sand filter breaking

    It's a 1 hp pump--same as I've had since we got the pool 10 years ago.

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    Default Re: Center Pipe in sand filter breaking

    More long shots. When you replaced the sand did you partially fill the tank with water first, before adding the sand? This is done to let the sand evenly fill the tank without stressing any of the internal plumbing. After you filled the tank with sand did the center pipe stay centered so you didn't have to stress it to mate with the valve assembly? As I said, log shots but I have to mention them. I'm heading in the direction of anything putting stress on that center pipe. On the pump, even if it was way oversized I don't see that causing the problems you describe. I'm still stumped.
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