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    To aerate, you can turn your return jet eyeballs upward to create rippling/bubbling on the surface. Or throw in a bunch of kids to play around. Anything that causes splashing will aerate.

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    I've never heard of aeration before, does anyone have an idea how it raises pH??

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    Well thats easy enough...thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by wposton84 View Post
    I've never heard of aeration before, does anyone have an idea how it raises pH??
    Not sure of the chemistry, but there's a gasification process that turns an acid into a hydroxide by the removal of, I think it's CO2. Chem_Geek has the whole chemistry of it down pat.

    If your T/A and your CH are both too high, it's easy to get cloudy water. For plaster pools, usually a CH of 200 to 400ppm is recommended. But if your CH goes to 500pm and your T/A rises, then you'll get cloudy water.

    Most vinyl pool owners don't have high calcium so it's not a problem if T/A is higher.
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    The short answer is that carbon dioxide in water is carbonic acid so when you are removing carbon dioxide from the water you are effectively removing carbonic acid -- removing an acid raises the pH. For technical reasons I won't get into here, the TA does not change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chem geek View Post
    The short answer is that carbon dioxide in water is carbonic acid so when you are removing carbon dioxide from the water you are effectively removing carbonic acid -- removing an acid raises the pH. For technical reasons I won't get into here, the TA does not change.
    Thanks for the SUPER-simple and clear explanation, Richard. I think I finally understand how the aerating raises pH!
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    I don't think I can take credit for that explanation since I believe waterbear (Evan) was the first to explain it that way though it's been so long that I don't remember exactly who said what first -- not that it matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chem geek View Post
    I don't think I can take credit for that explanation since I believe waterbear (Evan) was the first to explain it that way though it's been so long that I don't remember exactly who said what first -- not that it matters.
    http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showthr...9434#post49434
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