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    I have no chlorine reading my pool is cloudy and cant see the bottom. I took a sample to the local pool store and was told that i need 33lbs of chlorine my question is how much bleach do i need to put in to equal the amount of chlorine i need ........... GOT TO GET IT CLEARED UP FAST HAVING A POOL PARTY IN A FEW WEEKS AND I NEED IT CLEAR!!!!!!!!!!

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    Your post does not give us any information about your pool to be able to help. Without knowing any details about the size and type of pool you have or what your current water testing results are, we can't really help.

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    OK WATERMOM SORRY DIDNT EXPLAIN MYSELF i HAVE A 27FT ABOVE GROUND POOL WITH A SAND FILTER. IT WAS POND GREEN TO BEGIN WITH WITH I ADDED 8 BAGS OF SHOCK AND 16 POUNDS OF BAKING SODA IT TURNED MY WATER TO A LIGHT GREEN I TOOK A WATER SAMPLE TO THE LOCAL POOL STORE . DONT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MY READINGS WERE BUT I DO KNOW EVERTHING WAS GOOD. BY MY WATER BEING CLOUDY THE LADY DID A CHLORINE TEST AND TOLD ME I HAD SOME PROBLEMS GOING ON WITH NOT HAVING A READING FOR CHLORINE AT ALL AND THAT I NEEDED 33 LBS OF CHLORINE AND THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF MY PROBLEM SO WE DECIDE TO ADD BLEACH AND AFTER 9 GALLONS AND TESTING THE NEXT DAY I STILL HAD NO READING I WAS WONDERING IF I EVEN ADDED ENOUGH AND I WAS CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY GALLONS OF BLEACH WOULD EQUAL THE 33LBS OF CHLORINE. IT IS NOW A LIGHT BLUE BUT IT IS STILL CLOUDY AND I CANT SEE THE BOTTOM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsncrawler_77 View Post
    OK WATERMOM SORRY DIDNT EXPLAIN MYSELF i HAVE A 27FT ABOVE GROUND POOL WITH A SAND FILTER. IT WAS POND GREEN TO BEGIN WITH WITH I ADDED 8 BAGS OF SHOCK AND 16 POUNDS OF BAKING SODA IT TURNED MY WATER TO A LIGHT GREEN I TOOK A WATER SAMPLE TO THE LOCAL POOL STORE . DONT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MY READINGS WERE BUT I DO KNOW EVERTHING WAS GOOD. BY MY WATER BEING CLOUDY THE LADY DID A CHLORINE TEST AND TOLD ME I HAD SOME PROBLEMS GOING ON WITH NOT HAVING A READING FOR CHLORINE AT ALL AND THAT I NEEDED 33 LBS OF CHLORINE AND THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF MY PROBLEM SO WE DECIDE TO ADD BLEACH AND AFTER 9 GALLONS AND TESTING THE NEXT DAY I STILL HAD NO READING I WAS WONDERING IF I EVEN ADDED ENOUGH AND I WAS CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY GALLONS OF BLEACH WOULD EQUAL THE 33LBS OF CHLORINE. IT IS NOW A LIGHT BLUE BUT IT IS STILL CLOUDY AND I CANT SEE THE BOTTOM.
    A one-time application of chlorine is not likely to give you the good outcome that you envision for the upcoming pool party. Almost any pool water problem can be cleared up in a few weeks but you don't want to just throw chemicals at the water until you know the current chemical levels.

    “Pond green” almost always translates to a problem with algae growth. What causes an algae outbreak? Too little or inconsistently applied chlorine, excessive amounts of stabilizer (cyanuric acid from Trichlor, Dichlor tablets, and shock powder), too little filtering. Some pools get to the point where some of the pool water should be drained before efforts to kill algae are met with success.

    It seems that you already have some familiarity with the “BBB” way of maintaining a pool. Most folks here would suggest that you buy a high-end residential test kit (such as the FAS/DPD Taylor K-2006, available from many different pool supply web sites) and do your own testing. It doesn't sound like the pool store you went to provided specific test results, but have them you must! Take another pool water sample and ask (at a different pool store, if necessary) for the test results outlined below. Don’t feel obligated to purchase any chemicals. Post the test results for these items:

    pH
    Free Chlorine (FC)
    Combined Chlorine (CC)
    Total Chlorine (TC)
    Total Alkalinity (TA)
    Calcium Hardness (CH)
    Stabilizer (Cyanuric Acid or CYA)
    Copper (if they offer this test)

    Spend a few minutes reading the articles below. This material really helped me get a handle on pool chemistry when I was building my pool.

    http://www.poolsolutions.com/gd/avoiding_algae.html
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/pool-school/defeating_algae

    Finally, here’s a handy tool to calculate equivalent amounts of chemicals, including chlorine: http://www.poolcalculator.com/
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    OK,

    First thing, you are not going to solve this in a day or in 2 days. But if you follow our instructions, you may well get your pool nice and clean in time for your party. Your PRIMARY ingredient is what we call POPP, which stands for Pool Owner Patience and Persistence.

    As Polyvue said, we need "readings" from a new pool water test. Take it to the pool store and get them to give you the following:

    1)Free Chlorine (FC)
    2)Combined Chlorine or Chloramines (CC)
    3)Total Chlorine (TC)
    (if they give you FC and EITHER CC or TC, it's OK)
    4) pH
    5) Total Alkalinity (T/A) they may give you 2 numbers so report them both.
    6) Stabilizer, aka CYA, aka Cyanuric Acid
    7) Total or Calcium Hardness (CH)

    They'll probably give you a phosphate level readout and tell you to buy phosphate remover. Don't waste your money, no matter HOW hard a sell they try.

    Same with calcium. You have a vinyl pool. Calcium does NOTHING for a vinyl pool but cause trouble if you have too much. That will be another hard sell--to add calcium. Don't do it, no matter what they say.

    Next: For now you are DONE buying things called "shock" and other pool store chemicals. The ONLY pool store chemical is Liquid chlorine, but unless it's marked at 12% and, per gallon, it's less than double the cost of Ultra Bleach, stick with the Ultra Bleach.

    You are going to need to add Bleach 3x/day to your water, daily vacuum your pool to waste (a setting on your filter that dumps the water) and daily brush your pool. You'll need to test your chlorine levels 3x/day (use a search to find our Shot Glass Method for rough estimates of higher chlorine levels).

    And read our stickies on spring pool opening and fighting algae. EVERYTHING you need to know is posted here.

    We'll walk you through it, step by step, but start here. It's enough to begin.

    BTW, how deep is the WATER of your pool? You said it was 27'. I assume that means a 27' diameter circular above ground. We need the depth of the water to estimate how many gallons your pool contains, so we can recommend levels of bleach to use.

    Ultimately, you are going to do all the work cleaning up your pool, and will make the ultimate decisions of what is best for you. We can only offer you our best advice. The rest is up to you.
    Carl

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    Readiings for today !!!!



    (cc)0
    (tc)0
    (ph)7.2
    (cya)0
    (alk)120


    i have a vinyl liner and my pool is 4 1/2 ft deep

    thanks so far for all the advice and just let me know where i need to begin so i can get started
    Last edited by mrsncrawler_77; 05-18-2010 at 10:38 PM.

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