Thanks guys for the comments. Carl, it is all underground... maybe even under concrete. I am thinking by snaking it from the skimmer, that the clog is on the lower end of the pipe, nearer to the pump. We're probably talking about 25 to 35 feet from the pump. Snaking from the skimmer, I get nothing... goes in and comes out easily. Snaking from pump backwards toward the skimmer, I hit stuff about 18 feet. I have an old snake that you have to hand crank.... which I did for hours. I can sneak the snake through most of it.. but at about 23 feet, it is rough. I turn, turn, turn and it really doesn't move much.
I did the Drain King from skimmer down and like I said, I do get pretty good flow, just not what it should be. Going the other way, it really doesn't do much.
My thinking is to get a longer snake, one that you really dont' have to hand crank, but can use a drill.. and try that. If not, then it might be time to either dig, cut a piece out to get a better, wider snake in there, or call Roter Rooter...hehehe. I don't know, but man, I can't even think why I did that. I was excited about getting the pool ready this year, kids were out in the yard, so I was paying attention to them and evidently, wasn't thinking. I never vacuum the pool, only 2 times in 6 years, but I will be sure next time to keep the basket in.
Oh well, just had a lot of hopes in that Drain King, but who knows how much junk is in there? I'm persistent.... and can't sleep until it's done, so somethings going to give soon.
Thanks again for all the help and moral support... y'all are great guys !!