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    Quote Originally Posted by jtnaylor View Post
    Thanks for the info.

    We have children - the smallest is 4 years old but the pool area is fenced in separate from the rest of the yard and we keep it closed up when the pool is not in use. I'm not concerned with them getting over there.

    We ARE however surrounded by huge trees. Every year if the pool isn't covered once the leaves start falling it's a real mess. Last year I decided to just leave the pool running all winter. I figured I'd go out every day and scoop out the leaves and it would be fine. Big mistake. I would come home to hours of work trying to get them all out. And if I had to work late, or go out of town for a day or two... disaster. Soon as much as I fought to keep up - the pool turned into a swamp.

    This past spring it took months to drudge out all the algae covered leaves from the bottom. Then forever to get it clear. The pool is gorgeous now and I don't want to go through all this again. Every year I put off getting a safety cover, but they really seem like the best way to go.


    Thanks again.
    That's good, I like to hear about fences and pools locked up accordingly. It's the business owner in me I still can't shake. Safety first.

    Yeah a safety cover is your best bet. Be advised though your water quality won't be as good as the traditional solid (not porous) "tarping" method, of winterizing. That's the trade off.

    The meshed (porous) safety cover "rebounds" after the weight of snow on it (or stays taunt in warmer climates) . Thus allowing it to stay dry. And all the debris on top stays dry and can be easily cleaned before removal. But it drys because it drains into the pool. Even though the mesh is very fine it does put foreign material into the pool. But for a guy who left it open all winter and got it back up and running this additional chemical, filtering, and vacuuming work should be nothing. What were you thinking? (Just kidding it goes through every pool owners mind at one time or another).

    As for the opening due to the slide's leg. Weight it down with waterbags as best you can to minimize the opening. Don't use "blocks" or something abrasive and heavy. If there's snow where you are, the cover does move back and forth and anything on it will cause friction over the years. Waterbags are heavy , roll, and are nonabrasive.

    Even if you don't take these precautions the only leaves that make it under are the ones that will find their way there. Wind and lots of trees with leaves falling increases these chances. You'd be surprised over the course of an off season what gets pushed under, by natural forces.

    It's not usually a lot from my experiences , but compared to practically nothing when there isn't these circumstances, it is relatively more.

    With a vinyl liner pool it's not nearly an issue. But with gunite or painted concrete it can be. Obviously because of the staining problems inherent with those building techniques. I don't have too much experience with gunite, some concrete (mostly commercial), hence my forum name. But I have seen gunite IGs with a single impression of one leaf in them.

    For one or two legs of a slide, I still think your on the right track for keeping your pool closed properly and at a reasonable cost.
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    Vinyl 16 x 38 with center step here. Oddball size and hard to find cover. Found the one on ebay - loop-loc and used the live.com's 25% cashback on ebay purchases going on right now to get $222 back! Can't beat it.

    Anyway - I'll take your advise and put a waterbag around that area. The pool leg is maybe 6" away from the pool edge. I'm betting I can keep the straps around it fairly loose and do fine.

    We don't get much if any snow here. It's just the leaves - good lord the LEAVES! They make me crazy.

    I have a hayward color logic light in the box I'm about to install - and then I'll go on and sink the anchors for this cover.

    I thought I knew where the junction box was for the pool light but now I've found another one... not sure which one it is hah! I guess I'll just shut the whole house off and start pulling wires til I figure it out.

    If it's not one thing it's another when you own a pool I guess. My pump went out a few weeks ago. Replaced it - pool light went out and then I noticed it had water in it and just basically is really old and needs replacing. So I got the color logic - now another chunk of cash for the cover and my credit card is screaming at this point.


    Thanks again for the advice!

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    Vinyl Guy gave you great! advice on the safety cover!! Please follow it!!

    If you need a little advice on installing the cover or the new LED light - let me know, I do dozens of both every year If you tell mr e what you see in the 2 junction boxes, I may be able to narrow down which one is for your light.
    Luv & Luk, Ted

    Having done construction and service for 4 pool companies in 4 states starting in 1988, what I know about pools could fill a couple of books - what I don't know could fill libraries

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    Yeah - gotta love this place

    Thanks for the offer. My stuff is set up so there is a main breaker on the far side of the house (in the main breaker box) that shuts off the pool equpipment - and another set (with GFI) that shuts off the pool lights.

    Then they are connected to a breaker box on the opposite side of the house (where the pool equipment is located) There I have switches to control the two pumps.

    As for the lights - they go to the porch where there are 2 switches. One for the floodlight on the house - and one for the underwater pool light.

    Also by the pool equipment there is a hayward natural gas heater. I have never used the heater and don't even know if it works. But beside of it is a junction box sticking several inches out of the ground. The junction box is larger than the other one in question - I don't know if this is for the pool light (I suspect it is) or if it is the electricity for the heater???

    The other box is closer to the pool - right against my house. It's smaller in size and doesn't stick up AS far as the other box. But it's still serveral inches above ground. If it would stop raining I'd go out and open the boxes up.

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