Starting off just like I left last season :(

[stma]

The way I've been reading things, IF your FC numbers are holding overnite, then the bleach has accomplished it's job at killing any algae blooms....The next step is looking at the metals issue...This is exactly the point I'm at today...Ive poured near 35 gallons of bleach in a 7500 gallon pool in the past 13 days and have seen NO CHANGE !!!....one of the gals suggested taking a Vitamin C tablet, place it in a sock, crush it with a hammer and rub the sock against the pool wall.....IF in fact the rubbing takes off a stain or lightens the vinyl (which you'll see pretty quickly) the problem is metals....

I'm headed out within the hour to buy a Metal out product which I'm praying will help with this pool water....

But try that Vit.C sock and see how you make out....it sounds as though we're both in the same boat...gotta love that well water !!!!

[Watermom]

stma,
It is probably not a good idea to post your e-mail address on the forum. Lots of spam harvesters out there. Our forum has lots of "spiders" all the time. Better to just let him send you a private message instead or give him your e-mail address within your private message. Just my opinion.

By the way, if you decide you want to remove it from your post, you can hit the 'edit' button and go back in and do so.

[scootchu]

The way I've been reading things, IF your FC numbers are holding overnite, then the bleach has accomplished it's job at killing any algae blooms....The next step is looking at the metals issue...This is exactly the point I'm at today...Ive poured near 35 gallons of bleach in a 7500 gallon pool in the past 13 days and have seen NO CHANGE !!!....one of the gals suggested taking a Vitamin C tablet, place it in a sock, crush it with a hammer and rub the sock against the pool wall.....IF in fact the rubbing takes off a stain or lightens the vinyl (which you'll see pretty quickly) the problem is metals....

I'm headed out within the hour to buy a Metal out product which I'm praying will help with this pool water....

But try that Vit.C sock and see how you make out....it sounds as though we're both in the same boat...gotta love that well water !!!!

But and there always is a but, there isn't any staining. I suppose I will just wait and see what the pool store test shows and go from there.

I guess I am just at a loss right now because I haven't seen things change like they have in the past. I keep expecting to come home or wake up and see a significant difference and know that I am on the right track, but I don't.

I will post my test results later today.

[scootchu]

Taylor Kit arrived and this what I am dealing with right now:
PH - 7.2 added acid earlier
ALK - 80
Cal - 40
CYA - 110
FC - 63ppm !!!! That was diluting a 10ml sample 1/3 pool 2/3 distilled water
42 drops

Could that be right????

CC -0

Still cloudy green although a bit lighter shade of green.

HELP!!!

[aylad]

With a CYA level that high, it's going to be almost impossible to get the chlorine level up where you need it to clear the pool. I strongly advise to drain about 1/2 the pool and refill, and go from there!

Janet

[stma]

the only thing I can do is lend you my next steps I am taking in dealing with a 2 week old green pool...check your CL levels tonite, then check again tomorrow morning before the sun hits the pool...IF there is NO difference in the readings, it means the FC has stopped working against the algae...in other words, you have no algae left....you can also rub your hands across the sides of the pool wall...does it feel slimy, slippery et c?? If not, the algae is gone....

You DEFINITELY need to do the Vitamin C in the sock "thing." you Very Well may have a metals issue....In the event you do, FORGET the pool, enjoy the weekend and let the FC number drop to 1-2 PPm, THEN start your metal out treatments.....The afore-mentioned is exactly what I'm doing (except I'm buyin a case of beer as well to celebrate my findings).....!!

I NEVER had an issue like this in the past, and my cure-all was ALWAYS to keep shocking...Unfortunately, it didn't work this time.....The Vitamin C sock has shown me my issue is metal and not algae....i only wish I knew this prior to dumping 30 gallons of bleach into the water....!!!

PLEASE keep us posted as to your results and I will post to you as well to mine....together, we can get through this :> (then we can tackle the gas prices)!!!!!

[scootchu]

With a CYA level that high, it's going to be almost impossible to get the chlorine level up where you need it to clear the pool. I strongly advise to drain about 1/2 the pool and refill, and go from there!

Janet

That's what I am doing as I type. The pool store guy said, "who did this?" and I raised my hand. I guess he figured a competing store did it.
He said my CYA was off the charts. It was starting to clear a bit more, but at 63ppm I guess it had no choice.

I have drained below the skimmer already. Can I lay my solar cover on top of the exiting water and start filling from above? Will this keep the two from mixing much? I don't really want to take it too low without water on the walls.

[scootchu]

the only thing I can do is lend you my next steps I am taking in dealing with a 2 week old green pool...check your CL levels tonite, then check again tomorrow morning before the sun hits the pool...IF there is NO difference in the readings, it means the FC has stopped working against the algae...in other words, you have no algae left....you can also rub your hands across the sides of the pool wall...does it feel slimy, slippery et c?? If not, the algae is gone....

You DEFINITELY need to do the Vitamin C in the sock "thing." you Very Well may have a metals issue....In the event you do, FORGET the pool, enjoy the weekend and let the FC number drop to 1-2 PPm, THEN start your metal out treatments.....The afore-mentioned is exactly what I'm doing (except I'm buyin a case of beer as well to celebrate my findings).....!!

I NEVER had an issue like this in the past, and my cure-all was ALWAYS to keep shocking...Unfortunately, it didn't work this time.....The Vitamin C sock has shown me my issue is metal and not algae....i only wish I knew this prior to dumping 30 gallons of bleach into the water....!!!

PLEASE keep us posted as to your results and I will post to you as well to mine....together, we can get through this :> (then we can tackle the gas prices)!!!!!

The pool store test turned up no metals present. Just sky high CYA.

[szampino]

scootchu-

I suggest that you tackle one thing at a time and stay focused. Metals make a mess but they can clear up pretty quickly and can be controlled. Focus first on getting your CYA down (Like you are doing). Keep in mind that a half fill (using simple math) will take it from 110 to 55 and I (personally) think that is still pretty high. Doing a partial drain/refill a 2nd time would get it somewhere I like better, especially if you may also be dealing with metals. Keep in mind that metals react with High Chlorine and High PH so, in theory, if you need to shock and/or maintain at higher levels of FC due to your CYA number there may be a higher likely hood of a metal reaction.

If you really think you are dealing with metals, then I suggest the following:

When you do your refill and get your CYA down, Get your PH to about 7.0. Get your FC to about 1. Add about 1.5 to 1.75 qts of Pool Magnet or HTH Metal Control, let it circulate in the pool overnight. (don't add the product during sunlight).

Next, Vaccum if needed. Then begin to raise your FC to Shock level see BestGuess guide post. keep it at the appropriate level until it holds overnight, I'd even give it one extra night if you can be patient enough. Kill the 'pool livestock' and make sure its gone.

At the same time keep monitoring your PH and keep it low 7.0 - 7.2. **If and only if you believe that you are having a metal reaction due to your shock treatment, after you've completed 'shock therapy' let your chlorine level drop to somewhere around 1-2 and put some more Metal Control in, about the same as before, vaccum again and bring your FC back to the appropriate range.

I'm not a forum expert but have been dealing with metals.

[CarlD]

Taylor Kit arrived and this what I am dealing with right now:
PH - 7.2 added acid earlier
ALK - 80
Cal - 40
CYA - 110
FC - 63ppm !!!! That was diluting a 10ml sample 1/3 pool 2/3 distilled water
42 drops

Could that be right????

CC -0

Still cloudy green although a bit lighter shade of green.

HELP!!!

No. Dilution is only effective for the OTO chlorine test. The Taylor test should be good to at least 50ppm if not 100ppm (100 drops vs 200 drops). So your FC number is spurious. Sorry.