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    Default Re: Starting off just like I left last season :(

    First up: Big Lots bleach (which I bought 20 gallons of the other day) is no more than 3%....if its the Sno-EEE brand, you'll ntice that the ingredient legend does not give a percentage number....So the $1.30 you're paying is really not much of a deal after all....Walmart/ Aldi etc can probably give you a better deal overall...

    Any how, if things are getting better in the water, you're well on your way..I'd keep the PPM's up, continue brushing and backwqshing as needed..as for me, my green water issue is turning out to be a metals issue....(THANK GOD I finally found that out)...

    Sorry, but I cannot answer the question concerning the sump pump....BUT KEEP BLEACHING !!! a little improvement today will constantly improve over the next few days....You're getting there !!!! (I only wish I was so lucky)...

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    So with metals in the water it will be and stay green?

    With the amount of bleach I have in this pool I cannot imagine how the pool has not at least turned cloudy blue.

    Yesterday I tried the dilution test with what little distilled water I had (I use it to clean records) and with just a 1/4 of the vial filled with a pool sample the reading was still off the charts with the max being 3, so my gut feeling is I have a ton of Chlorine in there.

    My wife had picked up the Big Lots bleach on her way home from work. I bought 7 of the 3 packs of Clorox at Sams for about $6.86. Each jug in the pack is about 1.4 gallons. I am down to a jug and a half.

    The robot is coming up very light now and the water is very clean as far as particles go.

    I am beginning to suspect something else since the water is taking so very long to clear. Monday will make it 2 weeks with the filter running 24/7.

    My wife is off today and she is taking a sample to the pool store. Do I have to ask for them to test for metals?

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    The way I've been reading things, IF your FC numbers are holding overnite, then the bleach has accomplished it's job at killing any algae blooms....The next step is looking at the metals issue...This is exactly the point I'm at today...Ive poured near 35 gallons of bleach in a 7500 gallon pool in the past 13 days and have seen NO CHANGE !!!....one of the gals suggested taking a Vitamin C tablet, place it in a sock, crush it with a hammer and rub the sock against the pool wall.....IF in fact the rubbing takes off a stain or lightens the vinyl (which you'll see pretty quickly) the problem is metals....

    I'm headed out within the hour to buy a Metal out product which I'm praying will help with this pool water....

    But try that Vit.C sock and see how you make out....it sounds as though we're both in the same boat...gotta love that well water !!!!
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    Default Re: Starting off just like I left last season :(

    stma,
    It is probably not a good idea to post your e-mail address on the forum. Lots of spam harvesters out there. Our forum has lots of "spiders" all the time. Better to just let him send you a private message instead or give him your e-mail address within your private message. Just my opinion.

    By the way, if you decide you want to remove it from your post, you can hit the 'edit' button and go back in and do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stma View Post
    The way I've been reading things, IF your FC numbers are holding overnite, then the bleach has accomplished it's job at killing any algae blooms....The next step is looking at the metals issue...This is exactly the point I'm at today...Ive poured near 35 gallons of bleach in a 7500 gallon pool in the past 13 days and have seen NO CHANGE !!!....one of the gals suggested taking a Vitamin C tablet, place it in a sock, crush it with a hammer and rub the sock against the pool wall.....IF in fact the rubbing takes off a stain or lightens the vinyl (which you'll see pretty quickly) the problem is metals....

    I'm headed out within the hour to buy a Metal out product which I'm praying will help with this pool water....

    But try that Vit.C sock and see how you make out....it sounds as though we're both in the same boat...gotta love that well water !!!!

    But and there always is a but, there isn't any staining. I suppose I will just wait and see what the pool store test shows and go from there.

    I guess I am just at a loss right now because I haven't seen things change like they have in the past. I keep expecting to come home or wake up and see a significant difference and know that I am on the right track, but I don't.

    I will post my test results later today.

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    Taylor Kit arrived and this what I am dealing with right now:
    PH - 7.2 added acid earlier
    ALK - 80
    Cal - 40
    CYA - 110
    FC - 63ppm !!!! That was diluting a 10ml sample 1/3 pool 2/3 distilled water
    42 drops

    Could that be right????

    CC -0

    Still cloudy green although a bit lighter shade of green.

    HELP!!!

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    With a CYA level that high, it's going to be almost impossible to get the chlorine level up where you need it to clear the pool. I strongly advise to drain about 1/2 the pool and refill, and go from there!

    Janet

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    the only thing I can do is lend you my next steps I am taking in dealing with a 2 week old green pool...check your CL levels tonite, then check again tomorrow morning before the sun hits the pool...IF there is NO difference in the readings, it means the FC has stopped working against the algae...in other words, you have no algae left....you can also rub your hands across the sides of the pool wall...does it feel slimy, slippery et c?? If not, the algae is gone....

    You DEFINITELY need to do the Vitamin C in the sock "thing." you Very Well may have a metals issue....In the event you do, FORGET the pool, enjoy the weekend and let the FC number drop to 1-2 PPm, THEN start your metal out treatments.....The afore-mentioned is exactly what I'm doing (except I'm buyin a case of beer as well to celebrate my findings).....!!

    I NEVER had an issue like this in the past, and my cure-all was ALWAYS to keep shocking...Unfortunately, it didn't work this time.....The Vitamin C sock has shown me my issue is metal and not algae....i only wish I knew this prior to dumping 30 gallons of bleach into the water....!!!

    PLEASE keep us posted as to your results and I will post to you as well to mine....together, we can get through this :> (then we can tackle the gas prices)!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aylad View Post
    With a CYA level that high, it's going to be almost impossible to get the chlorine level up where you need it to clear the pool. I strongly advise to drain about 1/2 the pool and refill, and go from there!

    Janet
    That's what I am doing as I type. The pool store guy said, "who did this?" and I raised my hand. I guess he figured a competing store did it.
    He said my CYA was off the charts. It was starting to clear a bit more, but at 63ppm I guess it had no choice.

    I have drained below the skimmer already. Can I lay my solar cover on top of the exiting water and start filling from above? Will this keep the two from mixing much? I don't really want to take it too low without water on the walls.

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    Default Re: Starting off just like I left last season :(

    Quote Originally Posted by scootchu View Post
    Taylor Kit arrived and this what I am dealing with right now:
    PH - 7.2 added acid earlier
    ALK - 80
    Cal - 40
    CYA - 110
    FC - 63ppm !!!! That was diluting a 10ml sample 1/3 pool 2/3 distilled water
    42 drops

    Could that be right????

    CC -0

    Still cloudy green although a bit lighter shade of green.

    HELP!!!
    No. Dilution is only effective for the OTO chlorine test. The Taylor test should be good to at least 50ppm if not 100ppm (100 drops vs 200 drops). So your FC number is spurious. Sorry.
    Carl

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