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    Default Trying to Swim More and do less work

    I'm trying to start the season out right as opposed to asking the forum after I've made a mess of things.

    Background: Historically, I've had a metals problem in my pool where the water will brown when I shock or raise the chlorine.

    I've got a kit - PS234
    Above Ground (Blow-up Ring , Vinyl) 18x4ft round - about 8K gallons
    Cartridge Filter

    Filled from Well (Bypassed all treatment equipment) (almost filled, haven't started the filter yet)

    readings:
    FC=0
    CC=0
    TC=0
    PH= Below 6.8
    AlK=30
    CYA=0

    How do I startup this pool? What Order?
    Do I shock/Bleach/Etc?
    Sequestering Agent?
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    Cool Re: Trying to Swim More and do less work

    6.8 is as low as the PS234 measures, add a little borax to get that number up to a safe 7.0, low pH is needed for the sequestering chem, so don't over dose it - but the pool is being harmed by the acidic water. Then add the sequestering chem, as per label instructions and then, once the metal is 'out of the way' you can add the chlorine and get the other #s in order
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    Default Re: Trying to Swim More and do less work

    My POP is being challenged and the stubburn is being shaken from my mule.

    I have been trying to raise my PH as follows:

    Keep in mind my numbers:

    Initial readings: for 8000 gal pool
    FC=0
    CC=0
    TC=0
    PH= Below 6.8
    AlK=30
    CYA=0

    Current Numbers:

    FC=0
    CC=0
    TC=0
    PH= 6.8 (-) can't see much gain because it is the bottom of the scale
    AlK=50-60 (Depending on how red the color change needs to be)
    CYA=0

    I have been adding Borax by the lb(pound) every hour with the exception of over night. I've added about 5.5 lbs total so far. I've also added about 25oz of Soda Ash (Left over).

    I could use some encouragement because I've been at this for 2 days now and my real problems (metal) haven't even been addressed yet. I'm still working on the PH.
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    Default Re: Trying to Swim More and do less work

    Hang in there, you'll see some progress soon. Depending on how low your pH was originally, it can take a surprising amount of Borax to get the pH above 7.0. I would wait on raising the alk for now, since the pH moves more rapidly when the alk is lower...get the pH in line, THEN raise your alk.

    Don't give up now...just remember it'll be well worth the effort in the long run!!

    Janet

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    Default Re: Trying to Swim More and do less work

    Thanks I needed that last little bit of encouragement. It is so hard to be patient, I wanted to dump 4lbs of borax in at one time just to see some movement. I listened and am glad to report I got my PH right between the 6.8 and 7.2 reading and was able to add my Sequestering agent. (Pool Magnet). I decided put my 'Return' fountain to raise the PH a little more. I checked it tonight and it appears to be in line.

    My Alk is around 90 - 100 and I have not added any Bleach or Stabalizer.

    Since this was a fresh fill, I believe my next step would be to get the water to a 'FC-Shock' level to kill any bacteria or other stuff. Is this the correct next step? (Since there is no CYA in the water, I believe my FC should be at 10ppm) Can someone tell me if I got it right? How long do I need to keep at shock level?


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    Default Re: Trying to Swim More and do less work

    I just put in 1.42 Gal of Clorox Bleach (6%). And checked all chemistry after the hour.

    FC 17
    cc .5
    tc 17.5
    ph 7.2 (turned fountain off)
    Alk 110 - 120
    Cal 120
    CYA 0

    **I didn't expect the FC to be that high with 1.42 gal of clorox.

    How long to I need to maintain the FC @ 10(+-)
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