We've had a Hayward Phantom for about 2 months now and have been very happy with it. Easy to install. Comes with an installation DVD. I did it myself in about 20 minutes. I love how it cleans the sides, steps and top of the pool. It doesn't do a perfect job on the steps but pretty good. We got it from flpools on eBay for $480 and would gladly buy from him again. Quick and helpful response to pre-sales questions, and lighting fast ship.