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    Please never hesitate to ask a question! - if you don't ask, how are you supposed to find out the answer

    You are making good progress for 1 day! You now know that the Jandy valve is sucking air (if water 'spurts' out of it under positive pressure, it's most likely drawing air when the pressure is negative [ie, when the pump is on]). The Jandy valve may be cracked or, more probably, one of the o-rings is bad - if an o-ring is bad, the change out is pretty simple (there is also the chance that you have the valve with a lubricating knob and there is something wrong with that). As I said in the other post, you can isolate possible leaks by dribbling water on them and watching for a lessening of the bubbles in the pump.

    Given what you've described (the pump being run without enough water in the skimmers), I think that Al is right that the water in the pump cavitated - as a matter of fact, I'm sure it did because your basket got 'slagged' - the inlet and outlet thread-in connections melted and need to be replaced. Not wanting to be the bearer of bad news - check the underside of the pump for drips as well (when the pump is running) - there are some internal seals in the pump that probably got damaged too. Don't loose heart! - we can 'walk you through' the fixes if you are even moderately mechanically inclined

    As I said, you are making great progress! Once you find a leak, you can fix that and see if there is still a problem - it may take a little while, but the pool is functional and little leaks that still need to be addressed are better than leaks that keep you from running the pool
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    The water actually kinda ooozes quickly out of the top of the Jandy, never have seen it squirt. And yes, it does have the lube knob on it. Pump does not have any leaks. It sits on a composite board, so leaks are easy to spot. I will hunt down an O-ring kit for the Jandy today.

    Something new yesterday, when adding chlorine, the pool went from crystal clear to clear minty green. Whats up with that?

    Thanks again for your help.



    Quote Originally Posted by waste View Post
    Please never hesitate to ask a question! - if you don't ask, how are you supposed to find out the answer

    You are making good progress for 1 day! You now know that the Jandy valve is sucking air (if water 'spurts' out of it under positive pressure, it's most likely drawing air when the pressure is negative [ie, when the pump is on]). The Jandy valve may be cracked or, more probably, one of the o-rings is bad - if an o-ring is bad, the change out is pretty simple (there is also the chance that you have the valve with a lubricating knob and there is something wrong with that). As I said in the other post, you can isolate possible leaks by dribbling water on them and watching for a lessening of the bubbles in the pump.

    Given what you've described (the pump being run without enough water in the skimmers), I think that Al is right that the water in the pump cavitated - as a matter of fact, I'm sure it did because your basket got 'slagged' - the inlet and outlet thread-in connections melted and need to be replaced. Not wanting to be the bearer of bad news - check the underside of the pump for drips as well (when the pump is running) - there are some internal seals in the pump that probably got damaged too. Don't loose heart! - we can 'walk you through' the fixes if you are even moderately mechanically inclined

    As I said, you are making great progress! Once you find a leak, you can fix that and see if there is still a problem - it may take a little while, but the pool is functional and little leaks that still need to be addressed are better than leaks that keep you from running the pool

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunfla View Post
    Something new yesterday, when adding chlorine, the pool went from crystal clear to clear minty green. Whats up with that?
    Any chance that the pool has had a non-chlorine sanitizer used previously? Most people describe the color when chlorine is added to a Baquacil pool as being like Mountain Dew.

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    Only if the renters-from-hell used that stuff, or the pool guy they called to rescue them. I use the BBB method myself.

    Replaced the o-rings in the Jandy valve, and it appears all air leaks are gone!!!!!!!! YEE HAW !! Now, lets see if the solar panels are still working and not leaking air or water.

    MUCH THANKS to all !!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnT View Post
    Any chance that the pool has had a non-chlorine sanitizer used previously? Most people describe the color when chlorine is added to a Baquacil pool as being like Mountain Dew.
    Last edited by PoolDoc; 06-12-2013 at 03:50 PM. Reason: emphasize answer

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    John could be right on the Bacquacrap. Your renters could have been looking for an easy maintenance schedule and taken in by the glossy claims of that junk. Then you get stuck with the undoo.
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    How do I figure out what is actually in the pool, and how do I get rid of it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Poconos View Post
    John could be right on the Bacquacrap. Your renters could have been looking for an easy maintenance schedule and taken in by the glossy claims of that junk. Then you get stuck with the undoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunfla View Post
    How do I figure out what is actually in the pool, and how do I get rid of it?
    I think I'd take a water sample to a pool store and ask them to test for Baquacil and maybe copper.

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