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    Default Leak in pipe to pool

    This might be a stupid question and I will probably not explain it properly, but I have an inground pool and I have a leak in the pipe that is going back towards the pool. The leak is right before the 90 degree elbow before the pip heads underground. There is a connector and I can see that its attached to a threaded part of pipe but I can't turn the connector at all. As you can tell I have no idea what i'm talking about. I'm just not sure how to fix a leak in the fixed pipes, if that makes sense.

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    Cold Drink, the type of pipe makes a difference on the fix - pvc is fairly easy to work with once you 'get to know it' -- 'black poly' is somewhat harder to play with but still managable -- if teh pipes are metal, I could do it but wouldn't feel comfortable telling you how to.

    A picture is worth 1000 words, any chance of posting one? (I surely couldn't without a lot of help from my wife )

    The basics of the threaded connections are that you have a MALE adapter which screws into a FEMALE adaptor to create the seal. Teflon tape, silicon or 'pipe dope' (ie. permatex) is used to prevent air/ water from passing through the threads. I'll assume that the reason you can't get any extra turn out of the fitting is that it's glued to an immobile pipe - don't worry it can still be fixed

    I'm gonna wait for your reply before going into the 'how to' of it- so I know the type of pipe and your set up (it would be nice to know how much pipe there is both before and after the leaking fitting). Fear not, we'll get you straightened out
    Luv & Luk, Ted

    Having done construction and service for 4 pool companies in 4 states starting in 1988, what I know about pools could fill a couple of books - what I don't know could fill libraries

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    Here's a couple pictures of it:





    Let me know if you need more pics. Thanks.

    - Tom
    Last edited by Cold Drink; 07-01-2007 at 03:25 PM.

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    Tom, I think you'll be pleasently suprised at how easily the fix can be made You've got all the room you need to make the change-out! I can't tell from the pics if it's 1.5" or 2" pipe, just be sure to get the same sized pipe and fittings.
    Things you'll need:
    ~ 2' pipe SCH 40
    1- 90 elbow (sch 40 socket X socket - pipe will be glued into the 90)
    1- Union (sch 40, pipe will glue into the ends, be sure to take care of the o-ring, lube it whenever you take the union apart with silicone or teflon based lube and don't let it get lost!!)
    1- coupling (sch 40)
    PVC glue and primer
    Hacksaw with good blade
    Tape measure
    Pencil
    Rag

    OK, materials procured, we're set to do this. What we're going to do is cut out the offending, threaded fittings and replace them with a glued one (there is no reason for a threaded connection there - as it's glued into imobile pipes, you can't tighten it nor unthread it to fix the leak, we take the risk of the threads leaking again away). Starting on the horizontal pipe, cut the pipe~ 3" back from the fitting, try to keep the cuts perpendicular to the pipe - anything over 1/8" out of perpendicular should be recut so that you have a good straight cut (if you want to cheat, you can measure off of the fitting and make a few pencil marks on the pipe so that you have a guide for your cut). Next cut the vertical pipe the same way. Use the rag to rub off the burrs from the cut ends.
    Bad part is out - now we'll install the new piece. Following the instructions on the glue can - glue the coupling to the vertical pipe and the union to the hoizontal pipe(wipe any drips or excess glue off with the rag - let's keep this looking professional ). Dry fit (push it into it without glue) a piece of pipe into the union (the length of the pipe isn't crucial, but it needs to be long enough to dry fit the 90 onto the other end and be over the coupling on the vertical pipe- measure between the open end of the 90 and the coupling and add the extra for the depth of the fitting sockets (usually 2.5" - but double check that your fittings have a 1.25" socket). Cut a piece of pipe that size and glue it into the coupling. Now dry fit the 90 on the top of the new piece and measure between the open union end and the open 90 end, add the 2.5" and cut the final piece of pipe. Glue the last piece into the 90, now take the union apart and glue the piece with the 90 on it into the 1/2 union. Final step is to glue the 90 onto the vertical pipe - once it's on, reconnect the union. Let the glue set for the specified amount of time and you're ready to start up the pump again, with no leaks!

    The whole reason for the union is to enable you to be able to get the last connection on the 90 - it's going to be the most expensive part to buy, but is a real life saver - it also allows you to 'tinker' with the filter end of the pipe without having to cut the pipe again. I'd imagine that this will cost < $30 for materials and take < 45 min. Please post any questions about anything I've been unclear on and I'd love to hear the final result!! . Good luck with this and if I can be of more service, never hesitate to ask! - Ted
    Luv & Luk, Ted

    Having done construction and service for 4 pool companies in 4 states starting in 1988, what I know about pools could fill a couple of books - what I don't know could fill libraries

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    Ted, I finally did this repair last week (I kind of procrastinated a bit) but you're instructions were great, and it was really easy, thanks. No more leaks!

    Thanks again,
    - Tom

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