Yes, that is what I am talking about. I am going to take every screw out and take the electric motor out. I am sure there is a trick, a pin to pop or something I just can't find it. I was hoping someone else had. If the shop that fixes these wasn't 1 1/2 hrs away I would have left it there and been done with it. The curse of being handy is getting stuck sometimes I guess. Thanks for any help.