well filling new pool. treat to prevent?

[JohnT]

A dealer will typically do what it takes to sell you something. If they aren't trying to sell anything, you are probably fine. Don't get in the trap of adding things because it sounds like a good idea. There are downsides to everything you put in the pool.

[mbar]

My suggestion would be to watch the pool as you add chlorine. Add the chlorine slowly, keeping your ph on the low side - about 7.1 to 7.3. If you see any discoloration starting you can add a sequestering agent. Jack's Magic is good, and so is Metal Free. If you use the sequestering agent when you first see staining, and have your ph at 7.0 to 7.2, it will lift the stains off. I have well water, and my water does not test high for metals, but I do get staining. I have a fiberglass pool which is more suseptable to stains than vinyl. It is up to you whether you want to put the sequesterant in first - but I would wait because stains are not hard to get rid of, and you will be saving a lot of money if you don't need it.

[induce]

thanks for the tip Marie............but i already jumped.
Used 2 bottles Jack's purple stuff after much research.
filled pool last sat. pumps on line monday. water looked pretty bad sat. today (wed) super. very clear, fountain on to lower the TA. (started @ 450+) now :
pH 7.6
Cl 0
CYA 20
TA 350
Ch 250

doing the acid/areate, raising CYA, Adding bleach, adding acid, poly 60 in, running pump on high 24/7....water 90 degrees.......love the heat pump!!!

[mbar]

Sounds great! Just remember to add the bleach slowly, raising the level by 1ppm at a time, since your water is so clear you don't need to shock. With the temp at 90 (you lucky guy) I would get some chlorine in there. I would also add some acid to get your ph down to 7.0 before you add the bleach - you won't get your alkalinity any lower if you have a ph at 7.6, it has to be low to out gas the alkalinity. The ph will raise as the alkalinity lowers, so you have to keep adding acid to bring the ph down to keep the cycle going. Enjoy the pool!

[induce]

Marie,
why add the chlorine slowly? i'm having trouble maintaining cl levels. today 0, with a bit of CC. total of 6-8 gal bleach since sunday.
CYA is up to 40 today, so i am stopping the CYA. want to add more cl tonight. Why not shock to raise levels and get rid of CC. I was thinking 7 -10 ppm..............bad idea?
TA down to 300. pH back to 7.6 after being @7.1 this am.

[mbar]

The reason I said to take the chlorine up slowly is so that if there isn't enough sequstering agent in the water when you shock, the metal will fall out of solution and land on the surface of the pool. This was before you said you have cc - that's why it is good to always post the numbers. If you have a cc I would still add the chlorine slowly to get up to shock levels so that you can see if there is any stain forming. If you have a sand filter or DE filter you can add a chlorine puck to the skimmer while the pump is running. This will cause the water that hits the tablet to go right to the filter so that if the stain will fall out it will fall out on the filter medium first. The way that metals fall out of suspension is when the chlorine gets high, and the ph is high too. When dealing with metals it is a good idea to have your ph on the low side when shocking the pool. Also to have enough sequestering agent in the water to bind with the metals so that the high chlorine levels won't cause the metals to fall out of suspension. So my reasoning is until you know what your water will do, it is best to take it up to shock levels slowly - not all at once. When you get up to shock, and you have no stain, it means you have enough sequestering agent in to take care of the metals. Let me know if you have any other questions.

[induce]

excellent!!
thanks!