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    Is there anyway to use the boiler in my house as a pool heater? Has anyone done this?

    If I install a natural gas pool heater, does it need to be some distance away from the house or could it go in a covered area under a high deck?

    Thanks for any advice. I live in NY and I'm tired of only being able to use the pool 6 months a year. I have an inground pool.

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    Whether you can use your home boiler depends on some factors. Size of pool, boiler heat output rating, and your expectations. Probably not a good idea as typical home boilers have nowhere near the heat output of a pool heater which is sized for reasonable rates of temperature change. Where you place a NG pool heater depends on local ordinances, how the heater is designed, how it is vented, and common sense. Venting under a deck roof or near the house could lead to carbon monoxide drifting into living quarters.
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    If you want to use your pool all winter you will probably need a 400,000 BTU gas heater, just for the pool. That's probably a lot bigger than your home boiler, and maybe even your furnace.
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    Just so you are aware, heating the pool with a gas heater is very, very expensive. We have a solar system to keep our pool at 88F (it's used for swim therapy for my wife, and I happen to like warmer water too) as much as possible and we use gas to assist in this, especially at the start and end of the season. Even so, we only are able to swim from around mid-April to mid-November and we live in a temperate climate (near San Francisco) that only sometimes gets to freezing (typical winter overnight temperatures are in the 40's). Part of the problem isn't the pool water temperature, but how cold the air temperature is outside, especially when wet. It's not like a spa where it is so warm that your body is able to bear the cold air briefly.

    If you do plan to heat your pool with gas, then you should invest in a highly efficient insulated pool cover. We have an electric opaque cover that is not insulated (though it is convenient) and though it cuts down heat loss by about half, that still means we lose 3-4F overnight (instead of 6-8F) and a little less through a cold day. With an insulated cover, you could cut the loss in half again.

    When comparing heaters, look at the output rating in BTUs. Every 100,000 BTUs will heat 10,000 gallons of water by 1.2F degrees every hour. However, remember that your pool will be losing heat rapidly if it is a lot warmer than the surrounding air and ground. The cost of a gas heater can be determined by it's input BTU/hr. rate which you divide by 100,000 to get Therms/hour. Natural gas costs about $1.39/Therm where I live. The bottom line is that you could easily spend $400 or more heating your pool for a month.

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    You may also want to consider a cover over your pool-like a dome to act as a greenhouse and slow down heat loss. There are other types of enclosures as well that may help. The hundreds per month in heating costs will easily pay for it.

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    Consider how long you want to heat your pool also. Year around pool use may not be practical if the outside air temps are into the 20's and 30's. Who realistically goes out in a bathing suit when it's that cold?
    We've successfully installed heat pumps in the northeast US for many years. Again, there are limitations as all heaters will reduce efficiency when it gets cold. However, you should know that the most efficient gas heaters (forced air induction types) are about 90% efficient, with most of the rest of the gas heaters being about 70% efficient. That reduces the amount of BTU's being produce.
    The 100,000 BTU's of gas that you're paying for is only giving you 70,000 BTUs (or 90,000 BTUs with the efficient gas heaters) in return.
    Heat Pumps give you 500 to 600 times the investment cost to heat the water and are the most cost effective for consistent heat.
    Solar is even more efficient, but is inconsistent on overcast or cloudy days, or operated at night time.

    To look at it another way, you can actually afford to KEEP your pool heated using a heat pump for less than the cost of a gas heater being used to heat
    it on demand (when you want to use it). The pool is always ready for swimming with a heat pump.
    Benefit to gas? Because you can get gas heaters with copious amounts of BTUs, 400,000 BTUs for the largest residential gas heater, you can heat the water faster when you want to use it.

    As ChemGeek mentioned, a solar cover is a worthwhile investment, if you use it. Most pool owners, depending on the size of their pool, will used a solar cover the first month, but then decide to just leave it off to avoid the hassle.

    Venting with a gas heater is very important and I support the cautions that ChemGeek mentioned. By the way, that's where the other 30% of inefficient heating BTUs go, out the vent in wasted heat.

    Hope this helps.
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    Commercial Product Sales Manager - AquaCal AutoPilot Inc. Mobile: 954-325-3859
    e-mail: sean@teamhorner.com --- www.autopilot.com - www.aquacal.com

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