Main Drain Success Story

[tommy_b]

thanks Chris

[bryjen]

Hi Waste I have a few questions.
1. If you dont lower below returns and plug after it bubbles,how do you get antifreze in. Last pool guy just poured antifreeze straight in. Also I was wondering if I added at the chlorine feeder (never use) would it get there.The line that comes from it angles up to the jandy valve so I dont know if it would get there.
2. I have a d.e. filter. When I blow out the lines do I take the Drain plug out too. Also do you recommend taking it apart every year and clean the grid. The Pool builder did the first year. The pool guy that I used last year said not to.
3. Saw a pool store advertising a chemical to add when you backwash that prevents pump from rusting over winter. What do you think.

Thanks

[waste]

Hi Waste I have a few questions.
1. If you dont lower below returns and plug after it bubbles,how do you get antifreze in. Last pool guy just poured antifreeze straight in. Also I was wondering if I added at the chlorine feeder (never use) would it get there.The line that comes from it angles up to the jandy valve so I dont know if it would get there.
2. I have a d.e. filter. When I blow out the lines do I take the Drain plug out too. Also do you recommend taking it apart every year and clean the grid. The Pool builder did the first year. The pool guy that I used last year said not to.
3. Saw a pool store advertising a chemical to add when you backwash that prevents pump from rusting over winter. What do you think.

Thanks

Hi Bryjen I have a few answers

1. We usually don't worry about antifreeze in those lines, it's just too impractical. Because our lines are run well below the frost line, it's not a problem. As I've said before, if the lines are ~ fully evacuated of water, antifreeze isn't necessary (however, if I had a pool I'd add it). The only way I can think of getting antifreeze into your return line is to use a small flexible hose to 'snake' up and into the Jandy and pour in the AF, though probably a fair bit of it will come back out the opening you put the hose into

2. I recommend taking the DE filters apart at least 1x a year to fully clean the grids/ nest and lube any gaskets and o-rings and visually inspect for damage. Doing it at closing is a good time and lets you know that the filter is all set for next spring.

3. There should be nothing to rust in the pump if the seals are all good. I don't know what the chemical is but would assume that it would have to be some sort of conditioner to keep the seals from rotting. All I do is take out the drain plugs, blow some air through the effluent port to get ~ all the water out of them and either cover them or (preferably) take them in for the winter. What's most likely to rust over the winter is either the motor's shaft seal or the starter switch - if you can keep moisture out of the motor, you'll most likely open with no troubles.

Hope that the closing goes well , that you have a great winter and that we'll see you back here next spring!

[bryjen]

Thanks Waste for the quick reply. I forgot to ask when your blowing out your lines. I have a polaris that runs off the pump by turning a Jandy valve. Should I blow this line out while im doing the others by turning the valve. It has its own fliter in a glass case. Also when you blow out the lines does it go thru the de filter.
Thanks Again

[waste]

Yes, blow them all at the same time. The filter for the polaris should unscrew, after it's blown out, remove the filter and store it with your other pool stuff. I usually have the filter disconnected while I'm blowing the lines, or I put the multiport on 'recirc'.

[bryjen]

Hi Waste im back with another question. Closed my pool today . I blew out the lines thru the skimmer closest to the pump. Everything blew out ok except i couldnt get main drain to bubble. I went out and bought a new shop vac 5hp was the highest i could find. Still couldnt get it to bubble. I had evrything plugged up and used valve to bypass the pump. Let me say I was using my pool vacuum hose since it fit perfectly into the skimmer. Is it possible that the lenghth of hose even though i had a good seal is the problem. Any help thanks.

[Poconos]

A shop vac won't have the pressure to blow a main drain. An easy way to tell how high of a column of water you can blow is to just stick the blow end of the hose into the pool and keep moving it deeper. When it stops bubbling that's the pressure in inches of water it can push. Chances are you will be lucky to get 2 feet down. You may have also noticed this but those shop vacs (the brand and the generic term) leak on the outlet side, probably intentionally, for motor cooling in case you totally block the outlet. I modified mine a little to make a better seal and get a little more pressure at the hose. As for what you do with a main drain? I know it's been discussed on this forum somewhere but I don't have one and never paid much attention to the posts.
Al