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    Default Really Need To Add CYA?

    I've been maintaining my own pool for about a month now (builder threw in 1 month free) and had my water recently tested at a local pool shop. They told me that my CYA level was 0 and sold me a bucket of CYA. I've read as many threads on CYA I could find but couldn't find the right answer to my question. I have a SWG and when I run it at 40%, the FC reading is stable around 1-1.5 ppm. When I increase it to 45%, FC reads consistently around 2-3 ppm. So my question is do I really need to add CYA when the FC reading seems to be stable? Thanks in advance.

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    First, I would be suspect about the reading from your pool shop. It would be unusual for your pool builder to put in a system with an SWG and not add any CYA to the pool, or even to have any pool outside exposed to sunlight without any CYA. Is your pool exposed to the sun at all?

    If your pool wasn't exposed to sunlight and if it was not an SWG system, then you technically wouldn't need CYA though for rather obscure reasons I would still probably recommend a small amount of it. However, SWG systems require CYA to be run efficiently, even if there were no sunlight. CYA not only combines with chlorine to form a chemical that is more resistent to breakdown from sunlight, but the CYA also makes an SWG cell more efficient by combining with the generated chlorine so that too much chlorine doesn't build up in the salt cell near the plates.

    I suggest getting your own test kit that includes CYA (either K-2006 from Taylor or get Ben's test kit or other kits recommended on this forum). You can also ask the builder if he added CYA. If he did, then it will still be there since it does not break down (at least not quickly).

    If you truly do not have CYA, then perhaps that is why you have to run your SWG at 45% because some users of this forum only have to run their SWG at a much lower rate. Running your SWG at higher power levels and for longer periods of time will wear the cell faster so you will have to have it replaced sooner (and that's expensive). In this case, I would suggest you adding CYA, but again I would get your own test kit since I would not trust the pool stores.

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    Default Re: Really Need To Add CYA?

    Im my experiece it has been quite commen for pool builders to install SWGs and only put salt in the pool and not any stabilizer (or not to put enough stabilzier in the pool) so it is possible that your builder did not. I agree with Chem Geek about getting your own test kit and testing the CYA yourself. If the pool has no CYA you will find that adding it to the level recommended by your SWG manufacturer (uaually 60-80 ppm) will allow you to run your SWG at a lower output and prolong the cell life. It will also help maintain your FC in the water during times of direct sun. Most state health departments now recommend a minimum FC of 2 ppm and from my experiences with customers indicates that a FC of 3-4 ppm and a CYA of 60-80 ppm with a SWG produces an algae free pool.
    Retired pool store and commercial pool maintenance guy.

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    Thanks for the info. I'll definitely get myself a CYA test kit and add CYA as recommended. I believe the SWG manual recommends around 75 ppm. Anything to prolong the cell life since I know those things aren't cheap.

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