Electrical Quote Input

[wbrady]

Below is the electrical quote for the pool we are building. We live in Maryland. I was wondering if this was a reseanable price This is the electrical person the pool company wants to use and I don't have
anything to compare. Thanks for any input.
Swimming pool electrical wiring to include:

1. Base pool wiring which includes one 80 amp #6 wire feed from main electric panel in garage to subpanel at pool equipment, 1.5hp filter motor wiring with switch or supplied time clock, 120 v. pool light wiring and GFI outlet at pool equipment.
2. Additional pool light wiring
3. Polaris cleaner pump and time clock wiring
4. Electric heat pump wiring
5. Electric salt generator
6. Supply and install one weatherproof switch to operate pool lights that will be located in the planting bed near the corner of the covered porch. Final location to be determined on site.
7. Supply and install one GFI protected weatherproof outlet that will be located within the planting bed in front of the existing holly tree. Final locations to be determined on site.
8. Supply and install a 240 volt GFI circuit breaker for powering pumps.
9. Supply and install all necessary conduit and wire to the equipment listed.
10. Electrical bonding of steel wire mesh for concrete patios if required.

Total for work as listed: $ 3,520.00

We are available to start work immediately. The conduit installation will be started first and inspected once complete. Backfilling of electrical trenches is to be performed by others. Swimming pool light junction boxes must be mounted 8" above the pool coping, we will locate these in the planting bed near the corner of the covered porch, mounted on pressure treated lumber. The 80 amp sub panel, GFI outlet and salt generator will be mounted on pressure treated lumber at the pool equipment. 36" of unobstructed working room must be maintained in front of the electrical equipment. Final inspection of the electrical installation will be coordinated and scheduled with Frederick County after the project has been completed. All day access must be provided on day of inspection.

Payment terms. Unless otherwise agreed in writing, payment terms for the Contract Price shall be as follows: 1/3 of total project due at signing this Agreement; second payment due after trenching and ground work; remainder due upon completion of listed work. Additional work requested or required by Customer will not alter the above payment terms, but rather, any resulting charges will be billed separately.

First payment: $ 1,170.00
Second payment: $ 1,170.00
Final payment: $ 1,180.00



Acceptance. Unless otherwise stated herein, Lumen Electric, Inc. will perform all work in accordance with the Designs, specifications, and scope stated herein. Customer accepts and agrees to the foregoing, and assumes responsibility for all choices agreed to with respect to Design, specification, and scope, including any specialty items requested and ordered. Customer shall not withhold or delay payment of any portion of the Contract Price due to Customer’s subsequent decision to revisit any such choices. Lumen Electric, Inc. will accommodate reasonable requests by Customer to modify any portion of the project, but reserves the right to impose additional charges.

Customer Signature/
Acceptance of contract:_______________________________ Date: ________________

[tenax]

sounds reasonable assuming the quote for my setup was reasonable. about 1400 u.s and for that , my master grade electrical contractor did the following:

moved 3 breakers from sub panel to main panel.
installed a 15 amp 240 volt gfci breaker on main panel.
rewired to pool pump, heater and generator from 110 to 220 volts.
installed to main bonding point connectors from the above equipment.
connected all 3 items to electrical service.
cleaned up 3 bare wiring points.
installed a switch for each of the 3 electrical items, added an electrical outlet.
added a relay box in my shed with 3 relays including a timer relay to turn off heater before the pool pump and generator (he built the box from scratch with components)
rewire and relocate my timer to be master to the slave relay box.

i thought this was pricey for basically 5 hours work..but i don't have a clue on the parts cost..and i did have to get an inspector to come in..around here they are very pricey and i assume are worked into the labour cost (we have one that covers 2 cities 180 miles apart and all points in between so they are in great demand) so, maybe it isn't as pricey as i thought..the guy did come with great references from people i know.

[Tomcat]

Sounds awefully high to me. My electrician bill was around $750 and that included the subpanel, installing 4x4's for subpanel mounting, wiring up the subpanel, two intermatic timers, wiring the timers to the polaris and main pumps, wiring the light, the light switch, an outlet, and all required circuit breakers. They dug all trenches, installed conduit, and back-filled (can't believe your electrician says back-filled by someone else).

[wbrady]

PB recommends this guy and they are going to have the backfill and grading done by the decking people.

Just talked to a friend who had a pool built last year and he paid around $1500 for the electrical. I have a call into the PB and called another electrician for a quote.

[diamonddave]

Good idea. My quote was $1200. My equipment hook-up is similar, but I am not getting the remote switch & outlet. So, your friend's number sounds more like it to me.

dd

[tenax]

i should have mentioned in my case, that the alberta market is on a boom with the electrical trade being the highest in demand..the "head" electricians for local companies i was told by my guy get together each morning for breakfast and discuss who may have time to take on a job and are sharing leads between them..that's how crazy it is..took me 6 weeks to find an electrician who had the time to do the job! (for all of 5 hours work)

the tech school in calgary has electrical companies lined up who are making the following offer to incoming students for the apprentice course. they will pay their room/board and pay them 18 per hour x 8 hours to go to school. no strings attached (no contract to sign) when they are finished but the company gets first shot to make them a work offer when they complete the course. unprecedented. the story also goes that in oil country in northern alberta, journeyman electricians contracting their services are making up to 300,000 per year (versus 3 years ago when the average was 80,000)

a guy who graduated from the local community college heavy duty mechanic program (and is the poster child for the college) took a job in the oil industry up north that started at 250,000 per year..no experience, top student in the class. he is 19 years old.

[matt4x4]

Alberta is the most expensive province right now, and you all have to keep in mind, plus, we've always paid 10-20% more than our US counterparts because of our dollar - yes, our dollar's gone up recently, however that does not mean jobs are starting to go for less, that doesn't get taken into account up here until our dollar sits at it's higher value for about a century!!!!

I think that's a relatively expensive quote you've got there, wbrady, you could specify the same and get a quote from another electrician, I certainly would.

[dawndenise]

Wow, tomcat...where are you located?? That price is phenomenal!

wbrady...I lived in MD just before moving back to TX and I think you're quote is right on. We had non-pool electrical work done in MD and if they'll take care of the permits, which was a major hassle in the county we lived in, that's already worth something!

Our electrical ran $2500 here in TX for the pool for about the same work, as near as I can judge. However, not only did we have to do the back-filling, we also had to do all the trenching!! Like maids that "don't do windows", the electricians around here "don't do trenching!" They tell homeowners to go out to some street corner somewhere and hire a few day laborers to do the trenching!

Then, due to what the PB thought was a bad SWCG panel (wasn't bad after all...), the PB switched it out but couldn't figure out how to reconnect it. Had to call out the electrician who spent 10 minutes connecting 3 wires/cables and then charged us another $75. Needlesss to say, we won't be calling him for any other electrical work we have to do.

[JohnT]

Had to call out the electrician who spent 10 minutes connecting 3 wires/cables and then charged us another $75. Needlesss to say, we won't be calling him for any other electrical work we have to do.

I doubt he charged you anything for making the connection. $75 is a pretty standard charge just to show up.