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    Larry,
    Well...I didn't initiate the DE idea, it was really brought up a real long time ago but I've been mentioning it for a while. 26 PSI does sound high and that agrees with the 2HP pump scenario etc. What would be interesting to know is the blocked pressure the pump is capable of. If you know this then you can get an idea of how close to the max pump pressure you are operating. Do you still have good flow from the returns? Raising 1 PSI won't hurt anything. As for the trichlor puck in the skimmer....don't see how that would do anything constructive except add CYA and chlorine. Me thinks that your idea of adding DE and brushing regularly will indeed solve the problem. Dave's idea about filter channeling is valid. Also his comment about cutting flow is valid but I really don't know if I'd do it by restrictions via the suction or pressure side. Never thought about it. Turns out on a centrifugal pump a totally blocked flow is minimum motor current because no work is being done moving water. If anyone doubts this throw a clamp-on ammeter on a motor line and try it. Looking back in my records, 17 May 2001, at 15 PSI got 7.51 amp, flow blocked at 26 PSI was 6.4 amp. (240V motor on a 1 HP Hayward superpump.) I know...I'm a sick puppy for keeping records of this stuff. I need another Scotch.
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    Thanks for the replies. The flow from the returns is excellent. 16x32 IG vinyl SWG with 4 return outlets. I think the high pressure is simply the pump being oversize by a factor of at least 2x. I've wondered about channeling in the filter but doubt that I'll check that this year. I'm going to add DE and see how it works. Thanks again.

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    Default Re: DE in sand filter

    In case you didn't see it in other posts when you add the DE do it slowly, maybe 1/2 or 1 cup at a time and give it 20 minutes or so for the pressure to stabilize. Seems to take some time. Once you're calibrated you can chuck in the right amount at once after backwashing.
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    Question Re: DE in sand filter

    Quote Originally Posted by Poconos
    Larry,
    Well...I didn't initiate the DE idea, it was really brought up a real long time ago but I've been mentioning it for a while. 26 PSI does sound high and that agrees with the 2HP pump scenario etc. What would be interesting to know is the blocked pressure the pump is capable of. If you know this then you can get an idea of how close to the max pump pressure you are operating. Do you still have good flow from the returns? Raising 1 PSI won't hurt anything. As for the trichlor puck in the skimmer....don't see how that would do anything constructive except add CYA and chlorine. Me thinks that your idea of adding DE and brushing regularly will indeed solve the problem. Dave's idea about filter channeling is valid. Also his comment about cutting flow is valid but I really don't know if I'd do it by restrictions via the suction or pressure side. Never thought about it. Turns out on a centrifugal pump a totally blocked flow is minimum motor current because no work is being done moving water. If anyone doubts this throw a clamp-on ammeter on a motor line and try it. Looking back in my records, 17 May 2001, at 15 PSI got 7.51 amp, flow blocked at 26 PSI was 6.4 amp. (240V motor on a 1 HP Hayward superpump.) I know...I'm a sick puppy for keeping records of this stuff. I need another Scotch.
    Goodnight.
    Al
    Al, Dave, Larry,
    To clarify, I thought the 'rust' colored particles were iron, therefore the trichlor puck suggestion, used with a 'metal out' product. If the filter IS channeling, either the pump is too much, or the sand is impacted and needs to be replaced. If the filter is below pool level, there is an increase in pressure.
    After a little thought, it occurs to me that the number of returns may be too small for the amount of suction. (1 or 2 skimmers and a main drain would be too much for 2 or 3 returns - the pressure would be in the area that Larry describes)
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