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    Default Re: desperate newbie

    on the last level it should say acid =10. The + sign was a typo.

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    Okay here's what you need to do:
    1. Go to the supermarket and pick-up generic 6% ultra bleach. Use one gallon to raise your chlorine level 6ppm per 10,000 gallons of water (so you need to add about 5 gallons to get to ~12ppm). You can search the forum for the "bleach calculator" to get a link to download a program to help you determine how much you need to add.
    2. Then go purchase a drops-based test kit. A FAS-DPD test for chlorine is best, but if you cannot find one then a OTO test can be used (yellow gauge that tests up to 5ppm).
    3. Add enough bleach to your pool to bring your chlorine level to 10-15ppm.
    4. Keep your pump/filter running 24/7
    5. Test your water 3X per day. If you get the kit that only tests up to 5ppm for chlorine, then you will also need some DISTILLED water. Take one part pool water and one part distilled water and test - then multiply your results by 2 (to test to 10ppm) OR 1 part pool water to 2 parts distilled water and multiply your results by 3. This isn't extremely accurate - but it's better than guess strips/running to the pool store.
    6. Every time you test your water - Add more bleach to raise your chlorine level back to 10-15ppm.

    While your chlorine levels are high - it will throw off the PH test. If you want you can lower the PH in the pool to 7.2-7.6 BEFORE you start adding all the bleach, but 7.8 won't hurt

    You can add more CYA - but before you do - what are you using to normally chlorinate your pool? If you use pucks/sticks then you are adding CYA with those already.
    Last edited by Simmons99; 08-08-2006 at 12:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmons99
    Okay here's what you need to do:
    1. Go to the supermarket and pick-up generic 6% ultra bleach. Use one gallon to raise your chlorine level 6ppm per 10,000 gallons of water. You can search the forum for the "bleach calculator" to get a link to download a program to help you determine how much you need to add.
    2. Then go purchase a drops-based test kit. A FAS-DPD test for chlorine is best, but if you cannot find one then a OTO test can be used (yellow gauge that tests up to 5ppm).
    3. Add enough bleach to your pool to bring your chlorine level to 10-15ppm.
    4. Keep your pump/filter running 24/7
    5. Test your water 3X per day. If you get the kit that only tests up to 5ppm for chlorine, then you will also need some DISTILLED water. Take one part pool water and one part distilled water and test - then multiply your results by 2 (to test to 10ppm) OR 1 part pool water to 2 parts distilled water and multiply your results by 3. This isn't extremely accurate - but it's better than guess strips/running to the pool store.
    6. Every time you test your water - Add more bleach to raise your chlorine level back to 10-15ppm.

    While your chlorine levels are high - it will throw off the PH test. If you want you can lower the PH in the pool to 7.2-7.6 BEFORE you start adding all the bleach, but 7.8 won't hurt

    You can add more CYA - but before you do - what are you using to normally chlorinate your pool? If you use pucks/sticks then you are adding CYA with those already.
    Ok, I will get a new test kit tonight. I checked out the bleach calculator this morning & printed it, but unfortunatley, I don't understand it. I have no idea what CYA is, or how it's measured, or added. Normally I use 3" slowpokes, plus the occasional liquid shock sold at pool stores. My pool has a normally heavy bather load, plus the weather has been very hot & humid.
    I'm going to go to the store & p/u LOTS of Bleach. From what I've read so far, I think I need to start with about 7-8 gallons of bleach, right? Any guesses about how many I'll have to add each time I check (3x a day) thereafter? Should 20-30 gallons of bleach be enough?

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    Actually since 1 gallon adds 6ppm per 10,000 gallons, you take the size of your pool (25,000 gallons - which is 2.5 times higher than 10,000) so to add 6ppm to your pool you need 2 1/2 gallons (2.5 X 1 gallon).

    If you add 5 gallons then you will be adding 12ppm (+ any residual free chlorine left in your pool) which should be about 12.5ppm

    The next time you test IF you were at 10ppm, then you would only need to add about 1 3/4 gallons to get back to 13ppm.

    Don't just add 5 gallons everytime - you want to keep your chlorine level between 10ppm-15ppm. The algae should die relatively soon and your water will turn a cloudy blue - but keep the chlorine level high until the pool is clear.
    Completed 8/21/06
    14,000 gallon 3'-6' concrete pool with Diamond Brite
    Spa with spillway
    250K BTU gas heater (for spa)
    SWCG - Aqua Rite
    Hayward Super II Pump - Cartridge filter

    See pictures here http://www.philsimmons.com/family/ga...mages&keyword=

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    Thank you so much for your quick replies. Even though I should probably wait until dusk, I'm going to start right now. I'm hoping for soem amazing transformation like the one pictured in the sticky . I'll keep posting & let you know how it goes.

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    couple more questions:
    * should the bleach be added around the perimeter, or to the skimmer basket?
    * I have 1 gallon of algecide left. Should I bother adding it?
    * Is there such a thing as too much bleach?

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    Yes you can add the bleach to the skimmer or slowly around the edge.

    Yes you can add too much bleach - you probably do not want more than about 20ppm in your pool with your CYA level - chlorine level is determined by CYA level.

    NO - do NOT add algecide - it will cause more problems. Chlorine kills algae. Algecide is only necessary in few instances (like you have a problem over and over again and you have been keeping the proper chlorine levels) and then ONLY as a preventative measure and ONLY 60% polyquat - not the cheap copper-based algecide.

    If you keep the right level of chlorine (2ppm-4ppm for your CYA level) you will not have any algae.
    Completed 8/21/06
    14,000 gallon 3'-6' concrete pool with Diamond Brite
    Spa with spillway
    250K BTU gas heater (for spa)
    SWCG - Aqua Rite
    Hayward Super II Pump - Cartridge filter

    See pictures here http://www.philsimmons.com/family/ga...mages&keyword=

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