SWG and pool

[deep_blue]

I have chlorine based indoor pool that is a liner type pool.

Is rust an issue in salt pools ?

The liner company say it is not a problem, is there anything I can do to help
this type environment ? Is stainless steel compatable.

On a post someone stated bonded parts, my pool is full bonded in the install but I do not know if the stainless benches in the liner pool are ?

I am at

PH 7.4
TA 100
FC 4+
CC 00

Thanks in advance

deep_blue

[waste]

Deep Blue, welcome to the forum! (you've made an excellent choice comming here to learn the PROPER way to care for your pool). The salt in the pool will shorten the life expectency of stainless (or any other metal), but it shouldn't cause too much trouble, we're talking about getting ~25 yrs out of them instead of ~30, and IMHO the salt system is worth it. (those #s were just for demostrative purposes, not actual aproximations of how long ss ladders, etc will nor should last). However, this assumes that the ss was properly made (we are currently having a BIG problem with light faceplate screws in our SWCG pools rusting within a week of instalation, I think that Hayward got a bad batch of light screws that weren't properly coated (or whatever they do to make steel stainless) - this same thing I have seen on some ladders, one bolt or nut will rust out, while the others are fine )
I don't know if you've considered another problem: SWCG generating too much chlorine. Indoor pools just don't have the chlorine demand that outdoor pools do, you don't need cya (because theres ~no UV to break down the cl), there is MUCH less organic material entering the pool (grass, leaves, etc), no sunscreen entering the pool, they tend to have less gallons, etc. SO the unit, even at it's lowest setting will generate way too much chlorine. There are some fixes for this:
1) Only run the pump 2- 4 hrs/ day
2) Get a very small SWCG, though the smallest ones will probably generate too much on an 8 hr cycle
3) Get an ORP control attached to the unit (I believe that Poolpilot makes a unit with this included [am I correct Sean?], but others can be slaved to one - so that it only generates when necessary).
4) Slave the unit to a separate timer (from the pump's) so it only generates a couple of hours/ day.
Just a little 'food for thought', I'm certainly not trying to discourage your getting a SWCG, but thought you'd appreciate knowing about the potential problem.
However you choose, know that I and the others on this forum are more than willing to help you with any pool question you encounter.
Happy swimming!! - Waste

[deep_blue]

Thanks so much for the quick and complete response... makes sense.

I should say, that I have SWG and suddenly I am worried if I did the correct thing since the WAF is low now due to what's occurring.

The stainless panels are attached to nylon supports with screws and it seems that where the panels "touch or almost touch" I get this bubbly, rust looking stuff that disappears when you blow water on it or wipe it, puff and it is gone.

Somewhere I read that connecting the metal parts (stainless steel benches) to a bonded ground is important....am I even close to being right ?
does that help ? what metal could I use ?

You are right about the SWG and my Jandy 700 can put out a lot of chlorine so I have been running it for a low consistent amount of time. Seems to be controllable. I do have a separate timer that I can use in case.

I will get a water test for copper and iron.... maybe that might help knowing.

I use about 3000 ppm salt also.

Please feel free to inform, I have learned soo much on this forum already.

Thanks in advance.

[waste]

I said I'd help (as I can) and I'll give you my best $.02. I can't figure out what 'WAF' is. I also, ruefully, admit that I haven't the slightest clue about the reactions involved when metal meets salt water . The "rust looking stuff" probably is rust, I read that a 'sacrificial annode' might help, but don't have personal knowledge. I'm sorry that I can't further your querry, but if I see that none of the 'chemists' have noticed and responded to this tomorrow, I'll pm a couple of them to look at this thread.

[deep_blue]

Sorry the abreviations get funny on boards 'WAF' is wife acceptance factor.

I thank you for you help and interest. I like the salt water and I am interested in finding out about the rust and its control in a pool.

The whole balence of PH and all is a nice accomplishment that I have read about in this forum and applied with nice results.

A "clear pool is a thing of beauty"

Thanks again.

deep_blue

[waste]

Deep, if you are using borax to raise the pH (though raising pH usually isn't a problem with SWCGs), I believe that borates inhibit rust. Waterbear is conducting an experiment concerning borates and pH stability in SWCGs - it's http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showthread.php?t=4712 - I'll try to get him and PatL34 to look at this to see if either of them can help.
I can't believe that the WAF is low, the salt water should feel like liquid silk and her hair should feel like she just conditioned it when she gets out of the pool (or, is she bald? ). Let me go see if I can get those guys to take a look here when they have the time