Pool Lights

[Poolboyz]

We are using Hayward Color Logic..........The cost is around $400 and it is well worth it...check Hayward's website for the specs and a few pics....This pic is from another pool owner, but he said it is the Color Logic with Aqua Blue pebble tec which is a grey surface color...the lighter the surface the more the light will reflect...Good Luck!

[Jinx32]

The pool builder did recommend the Color Logics. In doing my own research I thought that the Jazz lights would be brighter and have a longer bulb life. Im confused cause no one on this sight seems to substantiate this conclusion. Our pool is just being built now. Its 44x24 freeform gunite. They are recommending 2 lights because of the pool's size. I would like to hear from someone that has either the Jazz lights or the color logics so we can make an informed decision.

[Poolboyz]

Our pool is almost done....I will send you some pics when it is complete....what stage of construction are you at, and what surface are you going with? One thing I like about the Color Logic is there are not moving parts, unlike the SAM light's Color wheel. Another thing is synchonizing two lights is very easy with the Color Logic....good luck. I am trying to attach a Color Logic Photo on a grey color pebble surface.....Hope this works

15,000 gal
IG Gunite
Pebble Sheen Aqua Blue
In Floor
StaRite Cartridge filter and 1 1/2 pump

[waterbear]

The color wheels on the Jazz lights turn about twice as fast as the ones on the SAM lights. The colors of the color wheel are very vibrant (deep) so they might not give as much illumination except when on white that you would expect (The FX lights are basically the same but they use Halogen bulbs instead of Metal Halide so they are not quite as bright, colors are basicly the same However, Metal Halide is a bluer light source so there are some slight differences...the green and deep blue and are very rich but the magenta is more purplish then compared to the FX lights)...SAM colors are more pastel (and therefore seem to illuminate better) and change more slowly. It depends on what you like. Metal Halide will produce a much brighter light than Halogen but they do not light immediately when you turn them on (sort of like a florescent light) and take a few minutes to reach full brightness. Also, when you turn them off they need to stay off for a few minuted before you try and turn them back on or the will not light. Once you get use to this little quirk of Metal Halide lighting you will have no problems. Because of this quirk they have two switches...one to operate the light itself and one to turn the color wheel on and off and to sync it if you have multiple lights. The Fiberstars FX and the Pentair SAM/SAl lghts just use one switch to control the light/color wheel and sync operations.
Interestingly enough, Pentairs fiber optics illuminator that is used with the SAM/SAL lights is also metal halide and uses the two switch approach but syncs fine with their halogen SAM/SAL lights. Fiberstars makes both a Metal Halide illuminator for use with the Jazz that is two switch and a halogen one for use with the FX that is single switch.

[Jinx32]

Waterbear, Thanks for the info. Do you have the Jazz lights in your pool, or the Sam lights? We still have our choice so do you have a recommedation? I like that the Jazz lights have a 2 year warentee and a 10k hour life span. Do you know of anyone that has them in their pool?

[waterbear]

Waterbear, Thanks for the info. Do you have the Jazz lights in your pool, or the Sam lights? We still have our choice so do you have a recommedation? I like that the Jazz lights have a 2 year warentee and a 10k hour life span. Do you know of anyone that has them in their pool?

I have had several problems with my pool construction...I started the thread "Pool builder from H**L. I was supposed to have FX lights in my pool and spa and a 2004AS fiber opitics illuminator. I ended up with the fiberstars illuminator and Sam and Sal lights so the colors didn't match and they wouldnt' sync. I now have the Pentair illuminator that works with the SAM and SAL lights. I actually prefer the pentair colors and slower color wheel rotation but the Jazz is a brighter light source so if you need the candlepower it would probably be the way to go. As far as Fiberstars warrenty, I have some of their water features and had some problems with them (fiber optics light bars fell off within hours after being installed) and could not get them to honer the warrenty. I had to repair them myself after a run around with their cusomter support.

[Jinx32]

I hope my pool construction goes smoother than yours did. But now that its all said and done are you happy with your decision to put a pool in?

[Jinx32]

Poolboyz, We are breaking ground tomorrow! Its a 44x24 freeform gunite with a white plaster finish. Definately send pics when you get a chance. I was set on the Color Logics too til I heard about the Jazz lights and now i'm confused on what to go with. We are doing 2 lights one in each end. I really want the colors to stand out and have a long lasting light. Let me know how yours works out.