Green, Cloudy, Dirty, I got it all in my salt water pool?

[alexhearn@alx1.com]

Thanks Water Bear,

Well I got the $47 Leslie's kit that did all the things that I would need? According to what I have read here in the forum, FC, TC, CC. PH, TA, CH, and CYA. I will order the one from the site too, but I figure I needed this in a hurry. They have one for $84, but that did the other test that so far from what I read here is not needed , hopefully that is?
For the FC test it says fill small tube to the 9ml line and add 5 drops DPD Reagent #1, 5 drops DPD Reagent #2, then invert and match to color chart. then it say add 5 drops reagent #3 and invert and match to color chart again, and that's TC? which is lower? then it says to subtract FC (Which is the higher number?) from the TC (which is the lower number?), and that gives you CC, but a larger number from a smaller number always gives you a negative number correct? I guess you just suppose to ignore the negative?

Well I only got 4 gallons of bleach I'm dummy I'll get some more

I put it in and now I get reading's of:

FC=5ppm
TC=2ppm
CC= -3ppm which must just be 3ppm, So actually maybe I need like 8 gallons more to pump it up to 10-11 range?

My pool last year (Different house), Was also a Master Pools Pool, of a very similar size and I know that was 22,000 gallons? so this must be around that, I think it might even be a tad bigger?

I just did the Pool gallon estaimater in the link you gave me and came up with 23,175 gallons that's not counting the spa and a little bit if space around the spa that adds to the pool, so I guess 24,000 gallons would be about right, as I say a tad bigger than last years..

I will also get the Acid in the AM too.

Thanks You Guys I appreciate all the help. I should say knowledge. B:-)

This is like going to pool College... Can't wait to post some pic's of some clean water and the kids having fun. Then maybe I'll feel like I got my degree..

The Salt Generator is set to 100%, which I was thinking is not good, But that's where the owner's had it set so I didn't touch it, yet! The Salt Generator is saying to inspect cell, So I suppose the cell needs cleaning? Guess you couldn't have giving me that link at a better time. Are you watching me

Alx

P.S.

I think I'll run down to Super Wallmart right now 12 midnight, and get the Bleach and maybe the Acid too if they have it. I guess I got pools water on the brain.

[Watermom]

In your pool, a half a gallon (2 quarts) will raise your cl a little more than 1ppm.

Ideally, FC and TC are equal which would mean that your CC reading is 0 which is what you want. FC + CC = TC. On your test kit, you should subtract TC - FC to find CC. TC should be the higher number or better yet, equal to FC. Thus, you should never get a negative number for CC.

[duraleigh]

I suggest you accelerate the acid dosage to 1 guart per dose. At a pint per dosage, you may well dose for 3 days before you bump it off that 8+ reading. I believe it would be helpful to get it into a measurable range more quickly......it may take a gallon or more to get you to 7.4.

[waterbear]

Thanks Water Bear,

Well I got the $47 Leslie's kit that did all the things that I would need? According to what I have read here in the forum, FC, TC, CC. PH, TA, CH, and CYA. I will order the one from the site too, but I figure I needed this in a hurry. They have one for $84, but that did the other test that so far from what I read here is not needed , hopefully that is?
For the FC test it says fill small tube to the 9ml line and add 5 drops DPD Reagent #1, 5 drops DPD Reagent #2, then invert and match to color chart.
This is your FC reading
then it say add 5 drops reagent #3 and invert and match to color chart again, and that's TC?
Correct, this will be either the same as your FC reading or higher. (the color will either stay the same or turn a deeper pink.) If your FC reading was 3 ppm and then you add reagent #3 and the color deepens to the 4 ppm reading then your FC is 3 ppm TC is 4 ppm and CC= TC-FC=4-3=1 ppm.
which is lower? then it says to subtract FC (Which is the higher number?) from the TC (which is the lower number?),
There is no way the TC (reading after reagent #3 is added) can be lower than FC (reading after reagents #1 and #2)! The TC reading will always be equal to or greater than the FC! When you add the third reagent to the tube the color will either stay the same or get deeper pink.
and that gives you CC, but a larger number from a smaller number always gives you a negative number correct? I guess you just suppose to ignore the negative?

TC will always be equal to or greater than FC!

[alexhearn@alx1.com]

I'm thinking that maybe my reagent #3, has gone bad then? Even though it's a brand new test kit when I got it home the r#3 had some crusty junk on the outside of the bottle? maybe it had a air leak and went bad? because every time I add R#3, the color gets lighter? I have got the ph down to 7.2-7.4,

Fc= 12-15 right now i guess I can't trust the Tc and CC reading right now? I'll try to run down to Leslie's see if they are still open and have them do a sample and see what they get for reading's then I'll tell them about my test kit?

Thank You again Guys and Gals...


Alx

[alexhearn@alx1.com]

Well sure enough I got a bad r#3 they replaced it, re-tested a water sample for me, they actually say that my cya is only 30ppm not 80, so Lillie's says that I need some conditioner? Is there any thing I can get that would be cheaper then the $41.00 Leslie's charges for conditioner? they say I need to use 3/4 of the barrel?

How much and what is Clarifier? The kid there said that if the pool doesn't clear in a couple of days to get some clarifier?

I was good I didn't get any of this stuff.. I wanted to check with the forum first?

Today this is what I did, tested water twice plus once at Leslie's it seems to be holding study for now.. It is still green and still not clear?

I vacuumed the pool manually again, cleaned my salt cell.

I really want to just jump in, but I'm afraid I'll get some weird illness and die?

POPP! I keep telling my self!

Alx

[duraleigh]

POP, POP, POP. There are no "magic bullets" from the pool store.

It's certainly your call but adding bottles of "super duper whatever" only gets you off track from your process.

That said, if you feel you have waaay too much money, it will relieve you of that feeling.

[aylad]

You don't need more conditioner (CYA, stabilizer, same things). And stay away from the clarifier, like Dave said--be patient, keep your Cl up, and your filter running!!


Janet

[waterbear]

I would not trust leslie's CYA testing....there was another thread on here where it was shown that they (most likely) are testing it wrong!
http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showpos...2&postcount=27
http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showpos...6&postcount=29

[alexhearn@alx1.com]

Just re-tested all, with my new r#003.

FC=10ppm
TC=10ppm
so TC-FC=CC, 10-10=0.0
CC=0ppm
PH=7.0 is this ok for a salt pool?
CYA=50ppm

TA=150ppm
CH=250ppm

I Cleaned My Salt Cell as per MR, from the link you gave me. Dumped the barrel in the pool as recommended, but that's probably why the drop to 7.0PH from 7.2PH. Any way the cell doesn't say "Inspect cell" any more now it says "high Salt". So I guess I need a Salt testing kit?

Do I want to add more Bleach and get my FC back up to 12-15ppm?

but other then that no real change yet, It's still cloudy and green, I can see to the bottom in the deep end but not good? The Shallow end is a lot better.

Alx