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My wife and I want a pool. We have plenty of land to put it on although it is a sloping lot and I realize there will have to be some excavating.
I want a pool, aprox 20 x 40 or close to it, and it must have a diving board at one end. I have several questions
1. Can a diving board be installed on an on ground pool? Do they make liners deep enough
2. How much should I consider paying for an inground pool with above specs( nothing fancy just a pool and the necessary componants
3. Has anyone installed one theirself and is it something to consider.
I am a do it yourselfer on a lot of things. and have a good knowledge of plumbing and wiring. I would definately contract out the concrete and digging.
However, what worries me the most about the install is the digging and getting the ground prepared prior to liner installation. Any thoughts?
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I don't think any above ground pool has enough depth for a diving board.
Don't know how much an inground vinyl liner pool would cost in your area,
however I did installed my inground pool myself.
If mechanically inclined it should not be a problem and maybe fun even!
In my case doing it myself offset the extra excavating cost, my lot is sloping too!
Dan
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Thanks for reply
I have checked for some kits and they run around 6-7 thousand. I was told double that for installation. Is that close??? If so I think I could put one in for around $15,000 total.
I can do the mechanics, plumbing electrical ect. Its just the digging and getting the bottom ready that worries me. I know it has to be exact. I don't think the actual digging will bring in many surprizes. I have a basement at my house and they did not encounter any large rocks or anything like that
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My husband and I put in our own pool about 4 years ago. It was 16 X 32 with a diving board and deep end. The kit was $5500, and all the other stuff probably cost us about $12,000 total to do the pool. WE contracted out the electrical and excavation. We did everything else our selves. It took 5 months due to non stop rain at the time. The pool leveling was by far the hardest with the steel walls, then the concrete bottom, then the liner installation. It was the worst 5 months on my life! We are currently having a pool built now and we ARE NOT doing any of the work. I would not recommned it at all. It was hard and tedious. PLus, we had a major water problem with water getting under the liner after a heavy rain storm. I am not sure why this happend, but I say it was due to our inexpereince doing this kind of work. WE have moved and sold that house since. It did not deter us from wanting another pool, but we decided to not do it ourselves. Although our company is busy and slow at completeing things. Its been 4 weeks and this is a vinyl pool. We are about 2 weeks out from being done.
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I'm in s. Arkansas, and my bids for a 20 x 40 IG grecian (octagan)pool, polymer walls, w/vinyl liner (20 ml), 3' to 8' deep with 1 hp Hayword and 300# sand filter, polaris 280 vac, 8' steps, and 8' divingboard are between 25,000 - 28,000. That does not include getting the electrical work done. I will do that myself and it will cost 400.00 or so. Also, I am getting at least 5' of concrete all the way around pool. I found the kit online for less than 8,000. So in this area, installation by PC's are triple the cost of the kit and then some, but that is doing everything, except running the electric to the area- they will hook up pump, lights, etc. to available supply. Hope this helps.
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3 years ago we purchased a used above ground pool w/deep end. Disassembled and tried to install in our yard. Completed leveling and side walls, ready to install liner. Left for vacation and returned home to a total mess. High winds blew side in and caved in dirt work. We decided that task was not for us and started researching inground pool.
After tons of research we purchased a 17'4" x 41'2" inground fiberglass pool last summer. The depth is 3' to 9'6". It has a safety ledge, two leisure seats (deep end), roman steps, with a large shallow area. Included diving board, jacuzzi filtering system, underwater light, pea-gravel deck with over pour (this hides the fiberglass lip around the top). Total installed price was $26,400.00, this included everything but electrical. No regrets, I love my pool! Hope this helps.
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The trick is not to be in a big hurry. If I had it to do over again, I would read up a lot and study how pools are made, visit pool excavation contractors, pool builder contractors, and concrete deck contractors to find out all the ins and outs of good and bad pools and the most repeatable crews. Then I would contract out the work myself and do what work I was comfortable doing.
One thing I’ve learned lately is that building a pool isn’t that hard, but there are a few tricks that good crews know to make the pool operation better. I am currently doing most of the electrical for our pool. Not easy because I have to run power 120 ft across my attack, then another 110 feet to the pool equipment. But the electrician is advising me all the way and he figures I’m saving about $4000.
If you are not in a hurry, I think you could do a lot of it yourself. There are a lot of tutorials on the internet these days.
Finally, if you are thinking of doing much of it yourself, I would consider doing gunite.
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Originally Posted by Razorback Fan
I have been thinking about winds. At my house, my back yard slopes down and faces the west. Several times a year we get strong straight line winds that have taken shingles off my house. I had done decided if I got an on ground pool it would have to be buried as far as specs would allow
beary,
Thanks for info. I am already doing part what you suggest.
I won't start until next spring. I am looking now and trying to get my pricing info and find out which pool I want. I do not know much about them except what I hear and read. So any info or advice is well appreciated.
I am comfortable with doing contracting. I contracted my house I live in. I subbed out the framing, foundation, brick, drywall, and a few others but I did all the finish work, plumbing, electrical ect myself. Saved a ton of money.
Why do you suggest gunite??? Pro's,,,, cons? If you do gunite,isn't it all concrete then?
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Gunite actually is easier to shape a pool to your dreams and desires. You can’t do that with liner kits and it cost a lot if you call a liner pool company to modify the steel sidings. But gunite allows you to make custom shape the pool and add any swimouts, benches, beach entries, and waterfalls to your hearts desire. Gunite cost a little more, but I'm confident you will like its advantages.
If you want to use the best subcontractors, then I suggest building the pool in the fall and winter because you won't be able to get the better crews in the spring when everyone else, like us, are building their pools. There are dozens of pool subcontractors in our area, but I quickly learned that only a few have a good reputation and they are scheduled three months ahead. Now your area might be different, so that is another question I would ask, our Pool company had to make some deals just to get the excavator he likes best to come out and dig our pool on Saturday. They were not happy about it either. You or I could never have that kind of pull.
Beary
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Hey there
I am pretty good with plumbing & wiring too ...just about to put water in my pool....took a month off from work to build it...like to do things myself. ITs done but I wish I didnt....well maybe not....well....we'll see once the water goes in.
If you do it you will need a thorough knowledge of codes if you are putting underground gas water, electric, pool lights....way more complex than I knew and I am a GC. When the rubber hits the road, the elec & plumber earn their $.
Plan some nice weather too....
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