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    Default CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools II

    Hi folks....I'm new, but eager to be part of this 'wet ' wild' pool community.

    My present concern is about the best CYA level to maintain for a pool using an Aqua Rite Salt Chlorinator. I recently drained and refilled some of my pool in order to reduce the CYA from 100ppm to about 40ppm. I would really like to stay in this range, but for some reason the manual suggests 60-80ppm.

    Does anyone else have a SWG system and what do you keep your CYA at? Why would a salt system need higher CYA?

    Thanks in advance. Karin
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    Default Re: CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools...

    The higher CYA helps the chlorine stick around in your pool longer. That allows you to run with a lower output setting on the SWG. I've had one for several years with cya of 70-80 and 1-2ppm chlorine with great results. I only add bleach after very heavy rains. Hope this helps, Tony

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    Default Re: CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools...

    Thanks Tony....that does help. How long do you run your SWCG each day? It seems that mine is way too eager to please and my chlorine level is up at 6ppm after running the pump/filter/Kreepy thing for about 6-8 hours each day.

    I know I can adjust it downward and I do....but we just had a horrifying experience with yellow algae and now I'm nervous that the alien algae will return.
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    Default Re: CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools...

    I run my CYA at 35-40PPM with a FC level of 2.5 PPM. Aquarite is set on 40% and runs for 12 hours each night with pump on low speed. Water is always crystal clear.

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    Default Re: CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools...

    Well for our pool my output is up a bit this year due to the hot hot summer so far here in the midwest. I'm at 50% and 8 hours per day. Water temp is 91.

    Edit: forgot to mention it's more efficient to run with salt at the higher end (3400), your output is also dependent on the salt level.

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    Default Re: CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools...

    The high recommended CYA level by most salt water chlorinator manufacturers seems to be a mystery to most on this forum.

    I abide by Ben's "best guess" chart of CYA vs. FC and so I keep my pool at 40ppm CYA and about 5ppm FC. My Polaris AquaClear cell runs 10 hours a day as my pool is in direct sun all day.
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    Default Re: CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools...

    I am interested in everyone's settings as well, since there seem to be many different lines of thinking on this:

    1) Use recommended CYA 60-80 and keep chlorine level per Ben's CYA table.
    2) Use recommended CYA 60-80 and ignore Ben's CYA table and rely on cell to continuously shock water plus add bleach when necessary.
    3) Use lower CYA level and Ben's CYA table. Recent studies indicate the CYA can contribute to dissolving plaster and shortening it's life.
    4) Use lower CYA level, ignore Ben's CYA table and rely on cell to shock water.

    My current preference is #4 since I have a plaster pool and not quite at Ben's CL ppm. I am operating at a CYA of 30, 21000 gallon pool, setting 90% and run the pump 6 hours a day. I am able to maintain 2 ppm. I have calculated that with my current settings, the cell puts in about 2 ppm per day so I figure I am using up 2 ppm per day.

    If anyone is interested, the aquarite/logic cell puts in 1.45 lbs/day @ 100% setting. This is equivalent to 1.45 gallons of 12.5% bleach.

    I think if I upped the CYA with the current settings, the chlorine would probably rise but not as quickly as per Ben's table. I am trying to research this a bit more to see if I can predict a chlorine ppm level with different CYA levels. I would love to experment with different CYA levels but given the difficulty of reducing CYA, this is not an option.
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    Default Re: CYA for Salt Chlorinator Pools...

    I run my CYA at 35-40 PPM with 2.5 PPM free chlorine. Pump is set on low speed for a run time of 12 hours each night with Aquarite set at 40%. The system manages to maintain levels even after the heaviest rains. Pool has been crystal clear since startup. Just got a free pool fill up yesterday with 3 inches. Nice to see some rain during the summer in south Texas.

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