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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean-NJ
    But saving money versus the B-B-B method? That's not realistic.

    That is part of my dillema. I was all in favor of the SWG for my new pool but after reading the BBB method, I thought wow that could save me a lot of money.

    I guess the advantage of the swg is less fuss?

    I could just try the bbb method when my pool is finished and add the swg at a later date?
    Sean,
    I was in exactly your position a year ago and opted out of the SWG. I'm still on the fence now. I want one, but I'm finding it dificult to part with the money. It's not that doing without one and using Ben's techniques instead is particularly arduous, but you do have to be more diligent about keeping up with the water (it only takes a few minutes a day but skipping even a couple or a few days can get you in trouble). The SWG would give me some more leeway and make pool care during vacations and business trips almost a non-issue.

    One other convenience factor with an SWG is that you won't have to get to the store every week or two for bleach (not a big deal; just another chore that most of us could do without).

    As Waterbear said, you'll have trouble finding someone who isn't happy with his/her SWG but you'll find more than a few of us out there with SWG envy. I guess I'll ask my wife for one for Christmas.

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    Did a cost estimate back in April on SWCG operation.

    http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showthread.php?t=316

    See if this compares to bleach.

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    going on Carl's estimate of $30/month for bleach and Pat's calculation of just over $20/month for a SWG then the SWG wins hands down!
    Retired pool store and commercial pool maintenance guy.

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    I think the trend to SWCGs is going to go faster and faster as the cost of producing bleach starts to go up with cost of electricity. The $30 - $20 differential will start to increase through the years. Another argument for SWCGs. And I've been running one since April of 1998.

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    That was a great post about the cost. I am on a tight budget and trying to keep costs under 22K for the pool itself. I guess I will just have to add a little to the budget. My gut was telling me the swg was a good investment but I was trying to find a way to justify cutting it out. Thanks for the input. This forum in general has educated me so much on pool care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterbear
    going on Carl's estimate of $30/month for bleach and Pat's calculation of just over $20/month for a SWG then the SWG wins hands down!
    But that ignores the initial cost. At $1000 initial cost to have the builder install it you're looking at an additional $100 per year for a 10 year period of ownership. Besides that, Carl's estimate was intentionally high to make his point ( I typically spend less than half that). Finally, Pat's supposition that power costs will drive bleach costs up in the long run applies more directly and at least equally to the power costs for operating the SWG.

    I want to believe that an SWG will pay for itself (as that would make my decision very easy) but it just ain't so.

    (On the other hand, it really doesn't cost that much more in the long run. I almost have myself talked into this; thanks Sean.)

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    Kurt,

    Lol! I think I talked myself into it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtV
    But that ignores the initial cost. At $1000 initial cost to have the builder install it you're looking at an additional $100 per year for a 10 year period of ownership. Besides that, Carl's estimate was intentionally high to make his point ( I typically spend less than half that). Finally, Pat's supposition that power costs will drive bleach costs up in the long run applies more directly and at least equally to the power costs for operating the SWG.

    Yes Kurt, I ignored the initial cost of the unit for a reason. That takes care of the intangibles, like going away on vacation, not having to worry too much on keeping the pH exactly between 7.2 and 7.6. It will look after itself a lot better than you think, and I am on my second SWCG, an upgrade from the first one, for that very reason. Yes I still use bleach and pucks on occasion, but overall it gives me peace of mind. I hope this answers you next statement below.
    I want to believe that an SWG will pay for itself (as that would make my decision very easy) but it just ain't so.

    (On the other hand, it really doesn't cost that much more in the long run. I almost have myself talked into this; thanks Sean.)
    Hope I have convinced you. Sean must be feeling very happy.

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    Pat,
    As I said, I'm sold on the convenience factor. I'm just pointing out that in straight dollars and cents, it will cost more to operate a pool with an SWG than it will using "grocery store chemicals".

    Thanks again for the cost analysis you provided in that earlier thread. It's definitely helped to convince me that an SWG is the way to go. (I'm actually already convinced, I'm just finding it difficult to write the check.)

    Cheers.

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    I'm just finding it difficult to write the check.
    I know the feeling.

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