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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    I don't have room for a pool of this size...but I am so excited for you! And...it is a family project...congratulations on such a beautie! I would LOVE to see the kids in action when this is finished...perhaps I can get the hubster to ditch the veggie garden and put in a pool....sobbing...I hate California Land Plot sizes...I hate it!

    Good luck in finishing this family fun project!

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    My recommendation is to use the cove material, having a 90 deg. corner is not the best of choices, the cove transitions the load (Weight of water) better and also gives you piece of mind that all that weight doesn't push through a small crack left between foam and wall, if there is even a small gap, the weight of the water will eventually push the liner in there as if it was saran wrap (with or without duct tape), so the cove would cover any such potential spots.
    Also, a cove gives a better transition to allow your kreepy crawley to climb the walls.
    Not necessarily what I was hoping to hear (LOL), but good advice all the same. My husband seems to think he can construct a cove out of our leftover styrofoam. He has some kind of tool that will cut angles out that way. Maybe we'll go that route. I am so OUT OF MONEY it isn't even funny, so maybe we'll attempt to do the cove that way. I have to go out and buy a ladder today because the one that came with our pool is a deck ladder (which is perfect except we're not putting the deck on until NEXT year). I called the local pool store and they said they are $175!!! YOWSA!

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    Good luck in finishing this family fun project!
    Well, I haven't been looking at this project as fun at all, but your post made me re-excited about the whole thing! I needed that pick-me-up, thank you!!

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    Hi, how is the progress today?

    Not to make an issue of the cove but I do have a couple more comments. It is not a right or wrong thing, just my thoughts.

    As mentioned before the primary functions of the cove are to keep the liner from getting under the bottom rails and to keep the liner from coming in contact with the sharp edges of the pool frame. Your foam has taken care of these two matters. If you are not sure about how tight the foam fits the wall or about how much tape to use you could always tape a 1' strip of plastic 6" up the wall and out onto the foam 6" all the way around the pool.

    The reason I would not order preformed cove is most of it is designed to snap into the bottom rail. You have taken away that option with the foam. It would require a ton of tape to keep it in place the way your pool sits now. I have seen tape backed cove that might work but again, the expense.

    The way your pool looks now is exactly the way my last one did when I installed the liner. I never missed not having a cove. My cleaner did not seem to mind either. That's not to say a different type of cleaner would not act differently. If you fit the foam tight and tape well there is no way you would ever have a gap big enough for the liner to slip into.

    I am not sure there is a real right or wrong here, just more to consider.

    Waiting for pics, Dennis
    AG pool installer
    Arizona

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    Dennis,
    When you say the preformed type of cove snaps into the bottom rail,I
    got confused.Doesn't the cove get placed AFTER the sand(in my case )
    is spread out? This would surely cover the bottom rail leaving nothing
    for the cove to snap into.

    Thanks,
    John

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    No John, the preformed cove snaps into the bottom rail. It is perfect for indoor display pools or pools set up on concrete. In a normal dirt situation I feel a little dirt over the rails covered by sand is more than adequate. If the cove is used it should be put in place before the sand is spread. The sand will almost cover the cove but that's ok. You are getting the wash out protection and a small birm.

    Hope that helps some, Dennis
    AG pool installer
    Arizona

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    Thanks for clearing that up for me Dennis.

    If I were to use a styrofoam base,would you then lay a cove on top of that?
    It seems to me that if you place the cove first,then lay the styrofoam,it
    would result in seam where the cove and styro meet,where the weight of
    the water would want to push the liner between.

    Thanks,
    John

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    That would be correct John, cove on top of foam. Get the sticky backed cove, not the snap into bottom rail cove. There are several versions on the market but I have seen one that would work well for this application. The tape is already on the back side, you just pull off the protective cover strip and stick it to the wall.

    Later, Dennis
    AG pool installer
    Arizona

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    Thanks for your help Dennis.

    John

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    Default Re: Helllpp Fassssssssttttttt!

    Hey John, we have gone a bit off topic but this is what it's all about.

    http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showthread.php?t=3435
    AG pool installer
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