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    You can put the rest of the bottle in the water, it won't hurt anything. I would rather have too much than not enough.
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    Today after seroius rain last night- my numbers are a liitle whacked

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    Alk-210
    Cya-30

    If I add Ph minus to lower Alk-then my Ph will drop too low. I do not quite understand the lower Alk sticky. Any advice. Water clear-no sparkle

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1ford
    Today after seroius rain last night- my numbers are a liitle whacked

    TC-2-4
    PH- 7.2
    Alk-210
    Cya-30

    If I add Ph minus to lower Alk-then my Ph will drop too low. I do not quite understand the lower Alk sticky. Any advice. Water clear-no sparkle
    If your pool is plaster or fiberglass drop the pH to 7.0 and start aerating. If it is vinyl then 7.2 is the right pH to start aerating. As you aerate the pH will go up and the Alk will go down. Keeep adding acid as you aerate to keep the pH at the target (7.0 or 7.2) until your ALK reading is around 100-120 ppm then stop adding acid and aerate until your pH is about 7.4....Your Alk should then be fine. (If you have a vinyl pool then you really only have to get the ALK down to about 140 ppm.)
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    Can I use PH minus to lower alk-or do I have to use acid. I have a vinyl pool. How do you aerate? I have an intex with only the one return and suction. Can I have the kids jump in and wiggle around? Or can I just brush the side to move the water around. Thanks in advance for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1ford
    Can I use PH minus to lower alk-or do I have to use acid. I have a vinyl pool.
    Either one is fine, I prefer acid since it is cheaper and a bit more efficient but is it not as nice to work with as dry acid. Your choice.
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    Ok-well I still have some ph minus from opening-so I will try that first. I added 1/2 cup to start for an 18x48 pool. I have read that if the ph gets to low it can harm the liner-so I a liitle hesitant. I will re-check in two hours. On average how long does it take for Alk to lower-is this another long process? Should I keep my filter running?

    A couple more questions:

    And I am still unclear about aeration.
    One alk is adjusted do I add borax to raise ph back.
    Can I continue to add my bleach as normal during this process?

    I really appreciate your help. By next season I should be a pro!!
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    Ph-7.2
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    Had a few kids jump in the pool to move it around. Should I add more ph minus or let it circulate overnight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1ford
    Ok-well I still have some ph minus from opening-so I will try that first. I added 1/2 cup to start for an 18x48 pool. I have read that if the ph gets to low it can harm the liner-so I a liitle hesitant. I will re-check in two hours. On average how long does it take for Alk to lower-is this another long process? Should I keep my filter running?

    A couple more questions:

    And I am still unclear about aeration.
    by lowering the pH you have shifted the TA buffer system of carbonic acid/carbonates/bicarbonates to more carbonic acid and less of the other two. Club soda is carbonic acid! (carbon dioxide gas dissolved in water) If you shake the bottle of club soda (aerate it) it goes flat (you have driven off the dissolved carbon dioxide). You want to do the same with your pool (I know you can't shake it but you want to disturb the water as much as you can, perhaps a pipe in the return with a 90 deg elbow to create a fountain effect, or 10 kids having a splashing contest)
    One alk is adjusted do I add borax to raise ph back.
    No, as the carbon dioxide is driven off the pH will rise on its own as the TA goes down. Just stop aerating when the pH is where you want it.
    Can I continue to add my bleach as normal during this process?
    Yes
    I really appreciate your help. By next season I should be a pro!!
    Hope this helps.
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